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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Gear installation

I just purchased a set of 4.56 gears for my truck (96 f-150 w/78 front end). I have removed differntials and rings and pinions before but always have reinstalled the factory gears. When installing these new gears, will anything be different than before? I was told i may need some special tools. I figure as long as everything fits in snug and everything turns properly it should be fine, but i just wanna be sure.

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OffRoadF-150
I just purchased a set of 4.56 gears for my truck (96 f-150 w/78 front end). I have removed differntials and rings and pinions before but always have reinstalled the factory gears. When installing these new gears, will anything be different than before? I was told i may need some special tools. I figure as long as everything fits in snug and everything turns properly it should be fine, but i just wanna be sure.

Thanks,
Will
With old bearings it is easier and check head of old pinion for adjustment markings (like +2 or -1) and then the new pinion too and preadjust shims accordingly. Lots of time if you do this correctly and then install ring gear and set back lash correctly, you will be really close on mesh pattern. Do paint the gears and check the mesh and shoot for a back lash of around 008 to 010 thousandths of a inch and make sure you set preload on pinon correctly too. I plan to write a extensive how too on this sometime and post it in my forum. It is on my long list of things to do.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Alright sorry for sounding stupid but i didnt understand that
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Alright sorry for sounding stupid but i didnt understand that
Then you probably should not attempt to set up the gears.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Removing the diff and bolting on the ring and istalling the pinion in place wont do the job?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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if you have to ask, you dont need to doit.....
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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It can be a bit tricky reading the mesh pattern if you don't know what you're looking for. I've found it's good to take your time and play with it a bit, moving it to the extremes until you get a better feel for what a centered pattern should really look like. Other guys might not agree, but I always find that chasing the coast side pattern can be an exercise in futility, so focus on the drive side and don't get too hung up if the coast side isn't just picture perfect.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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the least you would need in tools is an inch pound torque wrench (for measuring bearing preload), a ft lb torque wrench, a micrometer (for measuring shims) and a mag base dial indicator (for measuring your backlash). You'll need a shim kit to adjust the new gears. As 59f100 said, concentrate on the drive pattern and get your backlash right.

If that front end is a dana 44 you will need to take it somewhere to get the bearings pressed on. A set of setup bearings make the whole process easier. Either way, its a PITA.
 
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I've heard of people just eyeballing the drive pattern and "feeling" the backlash, but even if you think you can do that close enough, you really do need to get the preload on the pinion bearings correct or you'll have problems there. I think for at least the rear end, I'd take it in to a shop, or better yet, a friend who can show you how to do it. The front end -and someone might disagree with me- you might be allowed a little more room for slight error, simply because it won't be turning very often.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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If that front end is a dana 44 you will need to take it somewhere to get the bearings pressed on.
To clarify..the pinion bearings. The carrier bearings you can do with a press.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OffRoadF-150
Removing the diff and bolting on the ring and istalling the pinion in place wont do the job?
Unless your are incredibly lucky and it happens to line up correctly, you cannot do it that way.
 
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