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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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I haven't read the previous posts, but harbor freight tools has lots of stuff that costs less than most. However, craftsman ordered online might be feasible too. I'm pretty remote too, and have to travel 40 miles to the nearest sears...and believe it or not the nearest walmart too
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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i have to go over 90 here. i think i will get craftsman sockets and snap on ratchets. probably craftsman wrenches also.
 

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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I have snap-on rotating head ratchets that cost a bit more, but have been the best tools I ever bought. move the handle 90 degrees and spin it like a nut-driver. Well worth it.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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i am thinking of getting their soft grip flex head ratchet. There is a few on ebay for about 1/2 price. I am going to do some more looking and definately look into those rotating head ratchets. Found most of the craftsman socket sets (sae standard depth, metric standard depth, and metric deep well) on ebay from about 9.99 to 15.99. Just need to find SAE deep well and maybe some wrenches. Do you guys think that 3/8 drive is probably the first set i should buy then later maybe i would get 1/2 or should i just get 1/2?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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I think Mason 55 has a good suggestion. Older tools like Craftsman were made in the USA with far superior steel and workmanship as the foreign tools mostly sold today. I stopped buying Craftsman when they went to manufacturers in China and Tiawan. I needed a drill a couple months ago and got an industrial duty DeWalt at a flea market for $37.00. Starting out you may prefer all shiney new but foreign stuff gets old quick. I would guess the large sets on E-Bay are foreign made... I haven't bought name brand hand tools for a few years so I don't know if they went foreign or not...... Happy shopping..
In the 80's when Stanley manufactured Craftsman tools, then started offshoring them, they switched to Dahaner. From what I have seen, 85% of their tools are USA made (I remember that whole shebang). In fact, Armstrong and Craftsman gearwrenchs are made here in the old KD factories, when the Gearwrenchs started taking off, and Craftsman wanted their own, they offshored the KD and kept the other two in the USA.

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SK tools, has that same style ratchet, for less. And you might be able to find it for less on Ebay, if you look for SK besides Snap~on.

Tool warranties, I have a lot of tools whose warranties are no longer valid, as the companies are out of business; Indestro, Durochrome, PowerKraft, Wizard, Kraueter. Then I have some that the companies have changed hands or merged, Challenger, Easco, JH Williams, Kobalt tools, Benchtop, Craftsman, SK Wayne, Facom, Proto, Blackhawk, etc.
I am happy with Sears tools, for the normal stuff (specialty I go elsewhere) but I know the warranty could go the way of JCPenny's tools (remember those?)
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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We have some SanpOn 1/2 drive ratchets with the soft handles and while the ratchets are good the end of the soft handle breaks off on the end. The steel doesn't go all the way through to the end and if you are gripping on the very end of the handle after a while the end breaks off. We never tried to get a replacement since they figured it was just happen again anyway. The soft handles though have worked out better than I thought they would.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Do you guys think that 3/8 drive is probably the first set i should buy then later maybe i would get 1/2 or should i just get 1/2?
I bought a set of Husky 3/8 and 1/2" drives a few years ago when they were still made in USA and mostly use the 3/8". It all depends on the work you figure on getting into. You almost need both sizes. Home Depot bought the Husky name and and sent all their tool business off shore. I wouldn't buy any tool from Harbor Freight.... IMO..
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Then I have some that the companies have changed hands or merged, Challenger, Easco, JH Williams, Kobalt tools, Benchtop, Craftsman, SK Wayne, Facom, Proto, Blackhawk, etc.
Who did Challenger and Easco merged with? I have a few Challenger and Easco tools that are old.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Well i just bought a 47 pc sk 3/8 6 pt socket set off ebay for $95. I think it was a pretty good deal. Now I need to get me some metric wrenches. Thinking of getting those in sk too, plus i may get 3/8 snap on flex head soft grip ratchet or sk flex head palm control ratchet or maybe other flex head type ratchet, and maybe a universal joint havent done a lot of looking/thinking yet.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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I been using my Craftsman tools for 19 years now they had to give me two new 18mm 12 point sockets 1/2 in drive 'cause I was to lazy to get out from under the truck (twice) and get a six point out of my box. I put some meat on the breaker bar and busted the socket. Sears just threw the old one in a bin and gave me a new one no questions asked. I find it strange that both times it has been an 18mm. The wall is pretty thin. But that was what I needed at the time, I have found some pretty good buys at Pawn shops too. But I'll stick to my Craftsman, unless they go to Kmart quality. Josh79, years ago SK was a real good wrench I haven't had any, other than a few wrenches that made it through the years without getting "borrowed" by other mechanics or my sons teenage years, in a long time. As mentioned earlier if you take care of your tools they will take care of you. Kind of like a good Ford.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Ford 351W
Who did Challenger and Easco merged with? I have a few Challenger and Easco tools that are old.
Challenger and Easco, became part of KD. Now KD (as of last year) has/is merged with Armstrong (yet still has the KD name). All are part of Dahaner.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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i use snap on and s-k tools

make sure you have a reputable dealer and your fine
 
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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I have used craftsman tools for 30 years while working in dealerships and in my own shop. They have held up as good as the other brands i have ( snapon etc) the best thing about them is walk in to sears and they replace them.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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For your purposes craftsman should be fine. I recently worked for sears hardware, so if you have any specific questions a to what is or isn't crap, run them by me. The thinlines are the way to go with their ratchets. You will be able to afford alot more tools when you don't have to pay $30.00 for a pair of pliers. Not to put down Snap-On, if you use them a work and have acess to the truck, they're excellent. I would avoid Harbor Freight for all but the most random and cheap things. It's worth buying quality.

I'm only 20 and have more tools than I know what to do with. But it's money well spent. Last tip, you can never, repeat, never have too many hammers.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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i use snap on and s-k tools

make sure you have a reputable dealer and your fine
Not always true. When I bought my drill press I could of got a Made in China POS for $180.00. I went to a large local machinery dealer and selected a Delta for about $60.00 more and explained to the salesman why I was buying his product and didn't want foreign garbage. He didn't answer and that should of been a clue. A couple days after I got it home and set up and used I noticed in very small print, made in China. There wasn't much I could do except go back to the dealer and vent, of which I did including telling him I would never buy another tool from them...I suggest a customer has to read all the fine print not just the American name........ IMO..
 
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