windsor block cleveland heads
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windsor block cleveland heads
is it true you can put cleaveland heads on a windsor block called a (CLEAVOR i beleive) and that it will make good power if anybody knows any pros or cons let me know or if you have any advice i would appreciate it
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Well, these days there are more cons than pros to this swap. They were more popular back in the days when there wasn't a huge aftermarket following for the windsor motor. Now, you can get a set of heads from anyone, Edelbrock, Ford Racing, AFR, Dart, World Products, Jegs/Kaase, Trick Flow, Holley, etc.... And the all-out race heads (AFR 225, Victor Sr., etc) will flow as well as cleveland heads. None of them require re-drilling an intake to make it wet, or a custom intake, or different headers. They all bolt-on basically. And almost all are available aluminum, which will allow you to run higher compression and will save a ton of weight from a cleveland head.
Pros in the past were basically the best flowing head you could get for the Ford smallblock. It just isn't true anymore.....
Pros in the past were basically the best flowing head you could get for the Ford smallblock. It just isn't true anymore.....
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Well, of course there's the "Coolness Factor" of having a pseudo Boss 302 under the hood, or what looks like one even if built from a 351W.
But Cobra's right, there's really little point to doing the swap these days, unless you happened to have all parts lying around, some simple machining skills, and some free time.
But Cobra's right, there's really little point to doing the swap these days, unless you happened to have all parts lying around, some simple machining skills, and some free time.
Last edited by TigerDan; Jan 7, 2006 at 02:43 PM.
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While I agree with the above posters, I was surprised to find that the swap is still somewhat popular, particularly if you already have the parts and are on a low or non-budget. If you want to know more, try this:
www.darkhorseracing.net/clevor_head_mod.htm
www.darkhorseracing.net/clevor_head_mod.htm
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When I was racing there was only one other guy running a Ford and he ran a Clevor, of sorts. For the intake manifold he ran the old style Torker with spacer plates to adapt it to the heads, and a block-off plate to seal the lifter valley. The result was that the intake sat up off the engine and allowed air to pass under it, sort of like an air-gap intake. His biggest problem was in winding that Winsor too high with the 3-inch mains and kept lunching the bottom end. Now, I believe there are thicker bearings available to allow the use of a Cleveland crank in a Windsor engine. I have quite a few of the neccessary parts and and have thought about building one just for the heck of it although I don't know what I'd put it in at this point...
