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Slow Downloads
Has anyone else been experiencing slow downloads
from the site? I don't think it is on my end, because every thing else responds about as fast as it always has, tho that ain't saying much. If I don't get my daily dose of FTE, I just don't feel right!!!
DannyP
89 F-150 4x4 former EFI I-6 now carbed 351W, Edelbrock heads,cam,intake,carb.
MSD 6A, T-18 but looking for a ZF. 3.55's.
from the site? I don't think it is on my end, because every thing else responds about as fast as it always has, tho that ain't saying much. If I don't get my daily dose of FTE, I just don't feel right!!!
DannyP
89 F-150 4x4 former EFI I-6 now carbed 351W, Edelbrock heads,cam,intake,carb.
MSD 6A, T-18 but looking for a ZF. 3.55's.
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Okay gang.... take a deep breath, its not us. :-)
Its not the FTE server or facility. I've just done traceroutes from 45 different locations across the country (see www.traceroute.org) and the only traceroutes that had problems were connections that had ATT/MediaOne/RR.com (all the same company) between the tracing computer and our server. Please call ATT/MediOne/Road Runner, its out of my hands. According to my latest call to ATT, they've had this problem since the 6th and do not expect a resolution for another 2 weeks.
Over the last 10 minutes, our server had between 91 and 98 percent CPU idle time, zero swap file usage (the most swap we've ever used was 2 meg) and very little I/O overhead. Our hosting facility shows no dropped packets on their network.
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin
Its not the FTE server or facility. I've just done traceroutes from 45 different locations across the country (see www.traceroute.org) and the only traceroutes that had problems were connections that had ATT/MediaOne/RR.com (all the same company) between the tracing computer and our server. Please call ATT/MediOne/Road Runner, its out of my hands. According to my latest call to ATT, they've had this problem since the 6th and do not expect a resolution for another 2 weeks.
Over the last 10 minutes, our server had between 91 and 98 percent CPU idle time, zero swap file usage (the most swap we've ever used was 2 meg) and very little I/O overhead. Our hosting facility shows no dropped packets on their network.
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin
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Does ANYBODY actually read what I've been posting?
For the last time.... its not us.
Its a bad line coming into the server facilty. Its causing dropped packets on any route coming through MAE-East. It is out of my control and FTE is looking for a new facility. There were no complaints about slow speeds using the same exact forum software for over a year until the MAE-East problems started.
As to the UBB comment...
1. The pages here are no bigger than UBB pages.
2. On average pages are smaller and load faster.
3. The software has more features.
4. The admin tools are better.
5. Its less CPU intensive.
I also admin another site that has similar traffic and uses UBB and the hardware is identical. UBB thoroughly saturates the system. DCForum, on this system, uses less than 5% CPU.
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin
For the last time.... its not us.
Its a bad line coming into the server facilty. Its causing dropped packets on any route coming through MAE-East. It is out of my control and FTE is looking for a new facility. There were no complaints about slow speeds using the same exact forum software for over a year until the MAE-East problems started.
As to the UBB comment...
1. The pages here are no bigger than UBB pages.
2. On average pages are smaller and load faster.
3. The software has more features.
4. The admin tools are better.
5. Its less CPU intensive.
I also admin another site that has similar traffic and uses UBB and the hardware is identical. UBB thoroughly saturates the system. DCForum, on this system, uses less than 5% CPU.
Ken Payne
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Sorry if I seem touchy about the slowness issue. Its been a thorn in my side and trust me, I'm just as frustrated about it as some of the users are.
The next release of DCForum is in beta right now and has a look that's very similar to UBB. We plan to install it when its released. Its also got a ton of features UBB doesn't have, such as directly interfacing with ICQ! UBB users should feel at home with the new release and you can set your view options so you're not stuck with one interface.
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin
The next release of DCForum is in beta right now and has a look that's very similar to UBB. We plan to install it when its released. Its also got a ton of features UBB doesn't have, such as directly interfacing with ICQ! UBB users should feel at home with the new release and you can set your view options so you're not stuck with one interface.
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Didn't mean to make you touchy Ken.
I understand you and i am no computer whiz.I didn't mean to offend you.
I moderate a truck site with 3880 members and it has UBB and it's always snappy.Just didn't think about all the stuff that goes into it.
As usual love the site!Later
...blue
1970 f250 4x4
I understand you and i am no computer whiz.I didn't mean to offend you.
I moderate a truck site with 3880 members and it has UBB and it's always snappy.Just didn't think about all the stuff that goes into it.
As usual love the site!Later
...blue
1970 f250 4x4
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The problem with UBB is its CPU consumption goes up considerably as the site grows. FTE currently has about 7400 registered users, the UBB board I manage has about 5,500. The UBB site can get pretty slow in the evening. DCForum's performance seems to stay pretty consistant no matter how large it gets (so far!).
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Ken, you seem to be doing a great job here, and Im sorry that you catch all of the flack for this problem. Truth is, I rarely have a problem anywhere but here, and its frustrating because this is my FAVORITE site to visit. I just hope this problem is solved soon, so I can enjoy browsing you site as I used to. Thanks for going that extra mile to find where the fault lies and keeping us posted on these issues.
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Its going to cost us about $750 to move to another facility, but what choice do we have? My hosting facility has decided the problem doesn't exist and even suggested we go elsewhere!
What rubs me the wrong way is I can do traceroutes from all over the country showing dropped packets on the same router every time. MAE-East is supposedly doing maintenance right now (where the problem lies) but I'm not going to hold my breath and will proceed as if they weren't. If they fix it before I get a new facility then FTE will still move but I can take a little more time to do it.
I'd expect periodic problems with a shared server, but when you have your own server in a facility and you're paying hundreds per month and pushing 100 gig in traffic you'd expect better....
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin
What rubs me the wrong way is I can do traceroutes from all over the country showing dropped packets on the same router every time. MAE-East is supposedly doing maintenance right now (where the problem lies) but I'm not going to hold my breath and will proceed as if they weren't. If they fix it before I get a new facility then FTE will still move but I can take a little more time to do it.
I'd expect periodic problems with a shared server, but when you have your own server in a facility and you're paying hundreds per month and pushing 100 gig in traffic you'd expect better....
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin
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Tonight I've found three companies to host us. All three are backbone providers (ie, 1 hop to the Internet) each with Atlanta datacenter lines of 155Mb/sec - 622Mb/sec. That's FAST! These companies have Yahoo, Microsoft, etc. amoung their clients. It'll cost us about 40% more per month but I think it'll be worth it.
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Ken, I for one think it`s GREAT that you care 
It`s never fun to get info Last Hand from Company X..
PLEASE don`t cater to any company that will not give you service you are paying for. Iam an X IBM`er and my customers got what they paid for, from me any way.
Yes Money is MONEY and its yours. Keep what you want and don`t keep anyone else in business for **** Poor service.
Slow loading is OK the football game is on anyway
Bucs 23
Vikes 27
1:26 to go!!!!!
__JOHN__Õ¿ö
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"Crusin North" Car Club
Santa Rosa, Calif.
72 F-250
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http://clubs.excite.com/72FORD-F-250
It`s never fun to get info Last Hand from Company X..PLEASE don`t cater to any company that will not give you service you are paying for. Iam an X IBM`er and my customers got what they paid for, from me any way.
Yes Money is MONEY and its yours. Keep what you want and don`t keep anyone else in business for **** Poor service.
Slow loading is OK the football game is on anyway
Bucs 23
Vikes 27
1:26 to go!!!!!
__JOHN__Õ¿ö
Member-
"Crusin North" Car Club
Santa Rosa, Calif.
72 F-250
ICQ#6030753
http://clubs.excite.com/72FORD-F-250
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Here lately I have been FTE browsing about 5 am and it moves pretty fast. At nite, around 8 to 10 pm I can't do anything here. I am not griping Ken, I know it isn't your fault, just giving an update.
DannyP
89 F-150 4x4 former EFI I-6 now carbed 351W, Edelbrock heads,cam,intake,carb.
MSD 6A, T-18 but looking for a ZF. 3.55's.
DannyP
89 F-150 4x4 former EFI I-6 now carbed 351W, Edelbrock heads,cam,intake,carb.
MSD 6A, T-18 but looking for a ZF. 3.55's.
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We signed a contract with one of the world's largest dedicated hosting company on Monday.
Here's the setup:
700 Mhz Pentium III
512 megabytes RAM
2 9 gigabyte SCSI hard drives
Redhat Linux w/Apache server
This server should meet our needs for a long time. If anything, I buy much more than our needs. If it ever looks like we're pushing the box too hard, I'll bring the total ram up to a gigabyte and get a 1 gigahertz Pentium III put in it.
The anticipated schedule:
Oct 29 - Nov 4: Server setup/install. We'll be at the SEMA show most of the week so nothing really happens that week.
Nov 5 - Nov 11: Testing of the server and installing the forum software.
Nov 12 - Nov 18: Move our domain: fordtruckenthusiasts.com over to the server and move the message boards over. Anticipated down-time is 2-4 hours.
Nov 18 - ??????: Move our other domains over to the server and migrate the web site over to the new server.
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin
Here's the setup:
700 Mhz Pentium III
512 megabytes RAM
2 9 gigabyte SCSI hard drives
Redhat Linux w/Apache server
This server should meet our needs for a long time. If anything, I buy much more than our needs. If it ever looks like we're pushing the box too hard, I'll bring the total ram up to a gigabyte and get a 1 gigahertz Pentium III put in it.
The anticipated schedule:
Oct 29 - Nov 4: Server setup/install. We'll be at the SEMA show most of the week so nothing really happens that week.
Nov 5 - Nov 11: Testing of the server and installing the forum software.
Nov 12 - Nov 18: Move our domain: fordtruckenthusiasts.com over to the server and move the message boards over. Anticipated down-time is 2-4 hours.
Nov 18 - ??????: Move our other domains over to the server and migrate the web site over to the new server.
Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin