VIN quation...
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VIN quation...
I'm going to add two natural gas vessels on my aero, but policman told me, that I mast be carefull, because there is a copy of VIN somewhere on the body of my van. He recommended me to find the "second" VIN and not to damage it mounting brakets for vessels. I can see VIN under the windshield only. Unfortunatly policeman never saw it before. We have tried to find it, but unsucssesfully. Who knows, where is the 2nd VIN?
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Going by old school, usually the VIN is also on the engine block and somewhere on the frame, a couple body panels and on the door jam sticker. But this is going by 60s standard, I don't know if they still do it today.
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Originally Posted by Racerguy
Off topic here but congrats on 1000 posts 93nighthawk 
Woot! Now I am a Posting Guru! Happy Dance time!
On Topic, I agree with ford390gashog, don't worry about it, I doubt that they check that vin for anything unless your Aero gets stolen and stripped.
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93nighthawk! I just do not want to damage that VIN on a frame rail, I hope my van will never be stolen ore stripped, and police will never check this VIN, but "se vis pacem parra bellum and always use seatbelts!"
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There are really only two reasons for this;
One, to retain the value of the stock vehicle (like Cameros, Mustangs, Chevelles) where all the numbers match.
Two, to be able to identify your hunk of steel after it has been stripped (like Cameros, Mustangs, ect.)
There would be no need to check the frame VIN if the window VIN and Door VIN mathc and look untouched. If it scares you that much, take a flashlight and a rag, and inspect every inch that you plan on cutting/drilling beforehand.
One, to retain the value of the stock vehicle (like Cameros, Mustangs, Chevelles) where all the numbers match.
Two, to be able to identify your hunk of steel after it has been stripped (like Cameros, Mustangs, ect.)
There would be no need to check the frame VIN if the window VIN and Door VIN mathc and look untouched. If it scares you that much, take a flashlight and a rag, and inspect every inch that you plan on cutting/drilling beforehand.
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some police/law enforcement agencies now do a secondary VIN check on title transfers to prevent VIN altering/changing on theft/totaled vehicles....all used vehicles legally shipped out of US are secondary VIN inspected.
so best not to change/cover up or damage a secondary VIN
VIN inspectors here in Wa now go under the vehicles with mirrors...
no VIN's on motor blocks for 20+ years.
check out for used vehicles that may be out of hurricane country and history covered up by multiple transfers.
http://www.nicb.org/
secondary VIN location in the US is protected by Federal criminal law and cannot be published in public
so best not to change/cover up or damage a secondary VIN
VIN inspectors here in Wa now go under the vehicles with mirrors...
no VIN's on motor blocks for 20+ years.
check out for used vehicles that may be out of hurricane country and history covered up by multiple transfers.
http://www.nicb.org/
secondary VIN location in the US is protected by Federal criminal law and cannot be published in public
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'''secondary VIN location in the US is protected by Federal criminal law and cannot be published in public"
Sounds optimistically. Well! I like the other recomendation: "inspect every inch that you plan on cutting/drilling beforehand"...
The other hipotesa: VIN on a frame is covered by paint.
May be someone found this VIN yet. I belive it was found before, but where to look for it? What is the most probable place?
Sounds optimistically. Well! I like the other recomendation: "inspect every inch that you plan on cutting/drilling beforehand"...
The other hipotesa: VIN on a frame is covered by paint.
May be someone found this VIN yet. I belive it was found before, but where to look for it? What is the most probable place?
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I don't think you'll stumble across a VIN on your frame. European cars have the VIN punched into the frame, the windshield act is purely North America. I had to get my VIN punched into the frame to get it through German technical inspection.
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Ford 390, where is it? Happy New Year...
Originally Posted by ford390gashog
go for it. your policeman has no clue what he is talking about. the second is on the frame rail.
Ford 390, could you be more specific as to the location on the frame rail? My '87 Aerostar is a CALIF. built van (certified for CA I should say. Built in Missouri, where all of our Aerostars were assembled) and the undercarriage, frame, etc. is noticeably clean for the year of this van. I never noticed a secondary, VIN, "BUT" on the other hand, I was not really looking for one either. Is this a "stamping" or "metal tag stamping" etc.? For example, I can still easily read the Ford factory warning label located on the fuel filter area, (Driver seat, below) concerning the warning of the fuel system being under pressure, etc. Anyway, Thank You, in advance for your reply, Ford 390. HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and Yours... ED
PS Just applied some "Rain-X" repellent to the large Aerostar tinted windshield. (Factory tint & glass) Lots of rain forecast for northern California, this weekend. The new, 22" Trico Wiper Blades, are ready also. Maybe I'll drive the wife's Escort GT, and leave the Aerostar XLT in the warm, dry, garage? The wife can get around in a TAXI, but the Aerostar will be dry and clean! Good idea, huh? Ed
