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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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So after I figured out the problem with the smoking I figured I'd check the timing, never did it so I get the book out. Go to pull the spout off and I can't find it, cuz it's not there! It hasn't been there for a good while, the contacts are really corroded. Never really bothered to look before, gas mileage is about average from what I've read (10-14mpg). How is this thing not having problems going down the highway without advancing the timing? Checked with all the parts stores around town as well as the realers and they don't carry, looks like I get to go play in the junk yard.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Well, be prepared to do some tinkering with things once you get the SPOUT connector back in there. There is a very good possibility some things that should have been left alone have been "adjusted" if the truck was running well enough without the connector in place. Out of curiosity, what is your idle RPM in gear right now with the SPOUT missing?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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Idle right now is about 7-800 rpm in park, in gear it drops to about 600.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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oh boy, this cant be good huh grey.

fishin does it look like the idle screw on the throttle body has been moved at all? there should be a paint mark on it
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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The SPOUT connector is just a shorting jumper so if you can't get one chop off the socket and crimp a bullet connector or blade & receptecle to short the wires together.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kemicalburns
oh boy, this cant be good huh grey.

fishin does it look like the idle screw on the throttle body has been moved at all? there should be a paint mark on it
Uh yeah, it would almost HAVE to have been messed with if the idle is up there with no timing advance. If it looks like the throttle stop screw has been "adjusted" you will need to perform an IAC troubleshooting test to get it reset properly. Its not really difficult but its tedious. If you cant' tell if the throttle stop screw has been adjusted, disconnect the IAC's electrical connector with the truck idling. With the SPOUT connector in place and the IAC electrically disconnected, the engine should wind down and shudder/sputter to a stop (usually within about 5-10 seconds). If it DOESN'T do this, the throttle stop screw has been run in too far and must be returned to its factory setting before continuing.

This scenario will also necessitate a tune-up AFTER you get the SPOUT connector back in there because the plugs running like they have for so long will probably not last long when the spark timing control is back to normal.

Simon (muckeypaws) is right, you can fabricate a SPOUT connector if necessary. (Heck, you could pull the connector out and put a switch inline in place of the connector. Just so long as you can apply and remove the SPark OUTput signal from the ECA to the TFI).
 

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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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So I went and made a connector, jsut modified some 12ga to fit the plug. Ran great all the way to Va Beach from Cleveland. Got 15mpg instead of my winter 11. Thanks for all the help guys
 
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