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Old 02-05-2006, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by eedvark
Lets start with actual weight of your car Ford lists a 1970 Mark III at 4739 lbs.
Now the great race lincoln wants to run 4x4 3/4 ton Dodge trucks with 2.75 gears and an automatic.It beat a GT why now run 4x4s .My friends "Hemi" is an automatic. I can submit time slips for the Dodge though I hate to touch things with Dodge germs on them, so all we need is some SUPERLINCOLN time slips.
Maybe to be fair if the truck has to run 2.75 gears the SUPERLINCOLN should run some 31 inch tall tires.
if u have never drove or rode in one of these car's then u don't know how they are we have had them for year's. the lincoln is as heavy as a 4x4 so i would love to run it with someone's new 3/4 ton 4x4 dodge hemi. and i mean run them all stock the dodge is not going to win we have had this lincoln up to 143 mph before out on a stright road with no house's around just long stright road. i can't see the dodge going 143 mph i think the lincoln would have done more but we shut off on it. run out of road i bet they are not many 5000 pound's car's that would do that.
 
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:36 AM
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This is a thread that will not die .I agree to disagree.My '70 Mark III was rebuilt to Ford specs bought it for the motor.My 86 was 302 HO with 3.27 gears and overdrive.Both were fun but the '86 was alot lighter 3765 lbs. 0-60 8.4 1/4 16.6 according to Guiness.Street & Strip Cars bmagazine tested one and ran 15.95.
Anyway not what this thread was about not quite."And your gonna drive me to drinkin if we don't stop talkin 'bout your HOT ROD LINCOLN'
 
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:39 AM
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it's the gearing...you can get a little hybrid POS to go 200mph... it's all they way you have it geared...if you have the gearing that will take you to 143...then there's no way that you can have take off...
 
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460 MAF Supercharged vs Ram Bumblebee Supercharged Hemi

I just finished installing and tuned an Extreme EFI controller. The system replaced the Interactive MAF ECU, its now going into the 460 91 Mustang. Quick specs. 1997 Ford F-350 XLT 4X4 552. 9.2 CR Forged units, H-Rods, Stroker Crank, Roller Cam, Roller Rockers. Heads F3 Fully Ported, Big valve units. Ignition is a modified MSD coil per cylinder controlled by the extreme efi as well as the 72lb injectors. Supercharger is a Vortech T-Trim. Transmission is a ATS E4OD with a U.S Gear OD unit. Rear axle is Detroit Locked Dynatrac Dana 80 with 4.10 gears, driveshaft is shortened from a 2000 Ford F-550 short bed. Previous 10.25 axle, somehow the pinion got spat through the lower housing during a hard launch. The front fuel tank holds race fuel which is automatically activated with the pwr mode swith on the dash. With the econo mode it runs on the 91 octane from the rear tank. Tires is BFG KO 33,12.50 16.5 on Weld super single 16.5 x 9.75. During a test run, a friend with a supercharged bumblebee ram wanted to take a pass. To make a long story short, there was no comparison.
 
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Drag times for Mark III

Since the SUPERLINCOLN is never gonna run at a strip only blow smoke here Here is a link to a drag Lincoln.A 1970 Mark III.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Lincoln-Con...slip-7437.html

It ran a 15.510 @ 89.1 mph

The web site with the time slip is awesome you can bench race just about anything against anything using the times they have recorded for cars at strip.it might not prove anything but its alot of fun.If someone ran one on the strip you can compare it to something else. You can click on the vehicles listed and read specs see temp. at time of run driver info. its real cool.I can't believe you are not there yet.Looks like a Hemi 4x4 3/4 ton can run a 15.1,
thats a 4 door .

Have fun in there, I am going back right now.
 
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Old 02-05-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by eedvark
This is a thread that will not die .I agree to disagree.My '70 Mark III was rebuilt to Ford specs bought it for the motor.My 86 was 302 HO with 3.27 gears and overdrive.Both were fun but the '86 was alot lighter 3765 lbs. 0-60 8.4 1/4 16.6 according to Guiness.Street & Strip Cars bmagazine tested one and ran 15.95.
Anyway not what this thread was about not quite."And your gonna drive me to drinkin if we don't stop talkin 'bout your HOT ROD LINCOLN'
i have a friend that has a 1990 mustang gt all stock that has the 5.0 h.o i got behind him one day in my 70 mark 3 we got into a road race. i stuck on it like glue we diden't know what to think so i know your 86 lincoln would be slower than the mustang. because i had a 87 mark VII THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE THE 70. but ever car is not the same u could take 1000 car's just alike just off the show room floor and one of them would be faster than the other.
 
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Ok, my 2 cents worth, a kid in an 04 mustang GT automatic came up beside me friday and paced me for awhile (I was on the way to exhaust shop with open headers) I let him nail it first, then I really emabarassed him in a 429 2wd supercab . I own a 01 GT as well and think they are pretty close. I have took a "bumble bee" in my 01 GT so I believe it is possible with the right year model 460.
 
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Ok, my 2 cents worth, a kid in an 04 mustang GT automatic came up beside me friday and paced me for awhile (I was on the way to exhaust shop with open headers) I let him nail it first, then I really emabarassed him in a 429 2wd supercab . I own a 01 GT as well and think they are pretty close. I have took a "bumble bee" in my 01 GT so I believe it is possible with the right year model 460.
thank's for the input on this now people might beleave me jezzz
 
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lol...nope i still don't...i'd have to see this car, drive it down here to kentucky and let me check out this 'stang smasher.
 
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Originally Posted by Mtthwvn73
lol...nope i still don't...i'd have to see this car, drive it down here to kentucky and let me check out this 'stang smasher.
i don't care what u or anyone on here think's i know what i done with the car and for a 5000 pound car it will move on. let's bring the weight of a mustang up to 5000 pound's and see what it would do then anyway this thread is about a all stock 460 vs all stock new hemi pickup. like the other guy said he saw a new hemi truck get smoked by a rusted out 74 chevy 454 pickup. i know that the lincoln would not have a prob taking both of these on and this is the end of this thread for me unless i race a new hemi truck.
 
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SUPERLINCOLN vs WINNEBAGO

[QUOTE=ron_29_1973] let's bring the weight of a mustang up to 5000 pound's and see what it would do then

You just dont get it if we bring the weight up on the Mustang then we have bring up the horsepower too ,nothing changes. This is your car/truck as it is vs. somebody else's car/truck as it is.Your car weighs 5000 lbs. end of story a Mustang does not.Your car has a 10.5 compession big block a Mustang does not.There is no Bill France here to make everything equal .I posted a good time for a car like yours very impressive.If we made your car weigh = to a Winnebago and bring them both to a strip Lincoln vs Winnebago ,it would not prove anything its run as is vs as is .Tired of this as well.
 
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I love this thread! Does anyone even remember how it began? I dunno but now it is the Lincoln show, wooohooo! The torque of a ford bigblock is incredible, given the right conditions *say 45mph rolling start* the lincoln would be a good race for a stock vehicle *say, um, anything not a new 'vette or 'stang or lightening or camero or audi TT* However the same lincoln, from a dead stop, like a REAL drag race is run, would be beat up pretty bad. Sorry. I was amazed at the 10.0 time for an 1/8 mile run. Quicker than I would have guessed. I can imagine that car with one tire spinning all the way up the track...

Oh yeah, the 460 vs. hemi thing... In identical cars the hemi would probably win. With a few race parts added who knows...
 
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a stock 460 will beat a himy no problem. ive done it on a coupl of occasions
 
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Don't know about 460 truck vs hemi truck, but my son and a friend were bored early one morning (around 2:00 AM) and took my 86 F350 crew cab dually with a 3.55 gear and his 89 F350 crew cab dually with 4.10 gear and ran them. Both are 460s, mine is carbed, only change is knock the flame arrestor screens out of the tailpipe and set the cam staright up. his is EFI, mine is C6, his E4OD. Mine blew his away, which surprised everyone. I do know that one of the big bad hemi 1/2 tons looked real good in the rear view of my 85 LeBaron convertible. The look on the guys face was priceless, he couldn't believe a 4cyl could outrun him. BTW, the car's original engine was a hemi 2.6L
 
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Got next to a dodge 1/2 ton hemi last week, I started to chuckle when I thought about the commercial "hey! That have a hemi in it?". Ok anyway, I run a 90' crew cab dually ,460, e4od, flowmaster series 30 muffler,4.10... the light changed and I ran him to 70mph, I had a trucks length on him, I let out of it. I have a whole lotta' low end but lack the top end. I feel he woulda pulled on me eventually after the 75 mph mark. But then again my truck is a puller not a racer.
 


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