Site defacing?
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From: North Central Rural Sask.
It is really simple for someone to get into those free sites. I wouldnt worry about it much, as it was prolly some 13 year old punk kid screwing around. I would just redo your stuff, and not worry much about it.
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From: Drummonds, TN USA
I hope you have a backup of your site, and I hope you can reach some kind of resolution with the provider. Unfortunately - if the providers server was hacked into once, it will be again unless they get on the ball with their security issues.
In the meantime - you don't have a website, so your work is at this point down the drain.
I'd say it's refund and relocate time. Can you point your web address to another site? Or do you own your own webname to do that with?
Bluntly I was wondering when the third world tangos would begin internet disruption as a tactic. Fasten your seatbelts, folks!
I have heard unconfirmed rumours that attempts have been made to hack FTE - but obviously they were never successful.
I think you would be safest with a large well established host in the meantime, one that can't afford to mess around or have downtime. GEO/Yahoo is a good one and is ad-free if you are a paid site.
In the meantime - you don't have a website, so your work is at this point down the drain.
I'd say it's refund and relocate time. Can you point your web address to another site? Or do you own your own webname to do that with?
Bluntly I was wondering when the third world tangos would begin internet disruption as a tactic. Fasten your seatbelts, folks!
I have heard unconfirmed rumours that attempts have been made to hack FTE - but obviously they were never successful.
I think you would be safest with a large well established host in the meantime, one that can't afford to mess around or have downtime. GEO/Yahoo is a good one and is ad-free if you are a paid site.
Last edited by Greywolf; Dec 15, 2005 at 05:36 PM.
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From: peggs, oklahoma
i hope by invading iraq and shooting them with bullets.They understand we are being a bit nice.
Cuz we could just withdraw. and pusha button and say..."Iraq...whats that?"
Cuz we could just withdraw. and pusha button and say..."Iraq...whats that?"
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From: Drummonds, TN USA
They know we would not do that.
I have often wondered if there are terrorist connections to major gangs. The reason I put that, is that by definition they will use whatever means they can to disrupt, damage, and interfere with any infrastructure they can.
Abuse of the internet just fits the pattern - one more instance of ignorance by the lawless and demented.
I have often wondered if there are terrorist connections to major gangs. The reason I put that, is that by definition they will use whatever means they can to disrupt, damage, and interfere with any infrastructure they can.
Abuse of the internet just fits the pattern - one more instance of ignorance by the lawless and demented.
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From: NW burbs of chicago
Why can you not delete the defaceing material, did the hacker change your login/pass?
A spambot hit my www board and I had to delete it.
When I worked for a local ISP we had an admin that would use our conection (oc48) and his know how to cripple any website / organization attempting to screw with us,
it was really cool to watch him hack chineese webservers and change stuff around.
He now has a white hat hacking job for va major bank.
A spambot hit my www board and I had to delete it.
When I worked for a local ISP we had an admin that would use our conection (oc48) and his know how to cripple any website / organization attempting to screw with us,
it was really cool to watch him hack chineese webservers and change stuff around.
He now has a white hat hacking job for va major bank.
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From: SW Arizona
Last year there were a spat of these "Homepage" defacings by several gangs of Brazilian "scriptkiddies". They target several general IPs to do this and leave some kind of marker to let you know "Kilroy was here". This happened twice to Runegame.com and any IP connected with Gathering of Developers (before they folded) and Take2Games. The GoD forums were hit hard by these jerks. At least ours wasnt, but no one could enter through the homepage but you could enter the forums if you had the link.
Scriptkiddies are on the low end of blackhat hackers.....kids who found they could take their newly found computer skills in the wrong direction. Some are the opposite in showing off while pointing out a security problem that needs addressing. You will find more information about such defacements at "Zone-H.org" IT Security Information Network Some of these "kiddies" will post their names and where they hit here on this same site
Scriptkiddies are on the low end of blackhat hackers.....kids who found they could take their newly found computer skills in the wrong direction. Some are the opposite in showing off while pointing out a security problem that needs addressing. You will find more information about such defacements at "Zone-H.org" IT Security Information Network Some of these "kiddies" will post their names and where they hit here on this same site
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There has been a recent spat of this in some of the Jeep related sites. Generally the ones with lower grade providers, or absentee providers.
The 'ole reverse hack though, very nice. Kinda like the changing a hotlinked pic to something foul.
The 'ole reverse hack though, very nice. Kinda like the changing a hotlinked pic to something foul.
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Yeah, some vBulletins were hit if they were lower than 3.0 last year. The Runegame vB forums was hit in late 2004 by a Russian hack crew along with several other low vBulletin boards. This after our homepage defacement "run in" with Brazilian scriptkiddies. Rockstargames webtechs upgraded our forums after being notified of this. They took over all the old Offical Gathering of Developers website and forums to maintain (several GoDgames titles keep "offical forums" there) and upgraded those after being attacked by hackers. GoD put up Runegame's website using an "inhouse" encypted coding and so our site came under their pervue. The forums were vB 2.03 and had not been upgraded in three years til the 2004 attack.
Absentee providers will get hit if upgrades are not kept up. I still see lower vBulletin boards used that would be very vunerable. A pain in the butt when it happens.
Absentee providers will get hit if upgrades are not kept up. I still see lower vBulletin boards used that would be very vunerable. A pain in the butt when it happens.
Last edited by VikingBabe; Dec 16, 2005 at 04:07 PM.
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One of the Jeep boards I moderate, our provider is also a member of the group that sponsors the board, he once showed me a list of attacks on all of the websites that he hosts. I was simply amazed how many there were. Alot were from the same IP bank, and almost all were from overseas. He said that these kids generally are just screwing around, and have no idea what kind of sites they are messing with.
Kinda like the American Hackers from the late 80's and early 90's. Same motive 'jollys'.
Kinda like the American Hackers from the late 80's and early 90's. Same motive 'jollys'.
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