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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Thumbs up Newbie Here.....

Just wanted to say hi.......I just bought an 86 F350 crew cab diesel and I'm bringing it home tomorrow.......Looking foward to becoming active here and working out a few bugs on the truck
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Hello and welcome to the boards, hope to see you around.

Is that the 7.3, or does it come after that truck came out? Still rusty on my diesel history.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Do yourself a big favor and spring for a set of Ford factory shop manuals, they're invaluable for an old truck owner and much better than any of the aftermarket versions. There are some on eBay Motors auction site right now. I couldn't do without mine. The one I've used most is the "Electrical & Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual".
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by amish77
Hello and welcome to the boards, hope to see you around.

Is that the 7.3, or does it come after that truck came out? Still rusty on my diesel history.

it is the 6.9
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Welcome aboard! Sounds like a nice truck. I have a 1986 (September 1986) F250 SuperCab 4x4, but mine is the 460 gas. Bought it just before gas hit three bucks, so I WISH I had the diesel.

I think Piffery1's advice is good. I just bought a Haynes, but I'm going to look for a deal on factory manuals.

 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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thanks ken
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lane Dexter
Welcome aboard! Sounds like a nice truck. I have a 1986 (September 1986) F250 SuperCab 4x4, but mine is the 460 gas. Bought it just before gas hit three bucks, so I WISH I had the diesel.

I think Piffery1's advice is good. I just bought a Haynes, but I'm going to look for a deal on factory manuals.

Haynes and Chilton: famous for telling you everything that you already know and nothing you're trying to find out!!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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The Haynes and Chilton manuals are good if you have a basic knowledge of your truck. Shop manuals assume that you KNOW your entire truck.

I have all 3 for my truck. Bought the shop manuals from the Ford dealer. Best $60 that I've spent in a long time. It came with a vacuum line book, and an electrical hook-up guide, too. Its nice to have everything working properly on this truck. When I got it, someone had made spaghetti out of the wiriing. Its all fixed and cured.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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yeah the schematics are the best thing about the shop manuals in my book.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Holmesuser01
The Haynes and Chilton manuals are good if you have a basic knowledge of your truck. Shop manuals assume that you KNOW your entire truck.

I have all 3 for my truck. Bought the shop manuals from the Ford dealer. Best $60 that I've spent in a long time. It came with a vacuum line book, and an electrical hook-up guide, too. Its nice to have everything working properly on this truck. When I got it, someone had made spaghetti out of the wiriing. Its all fixed and cured.
Yes to the Ford factory manual's! That and FTE is where you find out all the stuff that Haynes and Chilton fail to tell you. If Haynes and Chilton were really good, Ford wouldn't have to bother spending the money to print their own. And also, if Haynes and Chilton were adequate this great site may not have been started. H & C, I repeat, give me information I already know and very little I don't. Go with the factory manuals.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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yeah the chiltons and haynes have too many years in the run of their manual. they run the entire span of the production of the truck, which i my case is 73-79. Can't possibly put all the info of every model year in a truck and keep it at their 200 page or thereabouts limit(observed).
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by amish77
yeah the chiltons and haynes have too many years in the run of their manual. they run the entire span of the production of the truck, which i my case is 73-79. Can't possibly put all the info of every model year in a truck and keep it at their 200 page or thereabouts limit(observed).
Right. All the wiring diagrams are incomplete and or wrong. My truck is an 86 F150 and it is a Calif vehicle. My Haynes manual assumes all 86 models to be EFI, which mine is not. The dash wiring is not illustrated in the diagrams. I don't need to be told how to r&r a transmission or a radiator which it explains in detail.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Welcome to the site Ken86F-350.

If I get another truck, it's going to be a 1980's style F-350 Crewcab, with diesel or 300 i6. Or a 70's crew cab model with a 300 I6.

As for the wiring diagrams, if you have a pretty good understanding of wiring, the diagrams are ok. The haynes manual usually puts our trucks into three sections. 1980, 1981 to 1983 and 1984 to 1986. using the latest year to represent the others. in this example, 1983 and 1986.

Even though the 1981 to 1983 wiring are simular, it can really screw up somebody, with those diagrams, cause of the differences things hook up or how wires are rerouted due to improvements or for saftey etc... They are still usefull but you have to take them with a grain of salt, and only use them as a guide only. And use your experience for the rest of the job. If you don't have any wiring experience, (or you suck at it. ; like so many previous owners ) the diagrams can actually get you into trouble. IMO
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
Welcome to the site Ken86F-350.

If I get another truck, it's going to be a 1980's style F-350 Crewcab, with diesel or 300 i6. Or a 70's crew cab model with a 300 I6.

As for the wiring diagrams, if you have a pretty good understanding of wiring, the diagrams are ok. The haynes manual usually puts our trucks into three sections. 1980, 1981 to 1983 and 1984 to 1986. using the latest year to represent the others. in this example, 1983 and 1986.

Even though the 1981 to 1983 wiring are simular, it can really screw up somebody, with those diagrams, cause of the differences things hook up or how wires are rerouted due to improvements or for saftey etc... They are still usefull but you have to take them with a grain of salt, and only use them as a guide only. And use your experience for the rest of the job. If you don't have any wiring experience, (or you suck at it. ; like so many previous owners ) the diagrams can actually get you into trouble. IMO
Well here's my take on it: I have a very good grasp of auto electrics and I am an excellent troubleshooter. But I need specific references to save time and effort. I hate to take something apart in search of some illusive problem because Haynes failed to depict a certain part of a circuit and sometimes the entire circuit. Especially poor is their information on dash circuitry, warning and indicator lights etc. These are simple things but to repair them without being armed with complete information is a handicap.

After long years as a professional mechanic/car builder/machinist I feel confident about tackling even difficult problems. But there is no way that I can compare with some guys on this site on Ford products. I just don't have thier experience and therefore their specific product knowlege. But a truly good shop manual levels the field a lot.
I do my troubleshooting by reasoning things out before I start taking things apart or replacing things. Manuals are a valuable tool if they give you complete and relevant information. But I don't need to have step by step instructions on how to replace a blower motor or pull an engine.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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