Oil Filter study...Your thoughts????
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Oil Filter study...Your thoughts????
Just wanted to post this link to a filter study I found.
Any thoughts????
I was surprised by the low rating of Fram filters, which is probably the most popular out there, by sales numbers.
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
Any thoughts????
I was surprised by the low rating of Fram filters, which is probably the most popular out there, by sales numbers.
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
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that study is very very old. BIG O DAVE did his own. check his threads in this forum. yes fram is the bottom of the barrel filter with a porsche price tag. even the walmart supertech filters are better and cost 2.00
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Other than the Frams still being junk, that study is somewhat outdated. The A/C Delco and a few others have changed designs depending on the application. The main bone to pic with Fram is that they are a marginal design that does work but the price they charge is not warranted for what you get. Many house brand filters not Made by Fram can be had for less and are twice the filter in terms on construction quality.
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Thanks for the link.
I am trying to find the best for my engine. I have a Ranger 2.3l 4banger. I run Mobil 1 5-30 in it and am looking for the best filter I can find at a reasonable price. Anyone have any thoughts on which oil filter would the bill?
I am trying to find the best for my engine. I have a Ranger 2.3l 4banger. I run Mobil 1 5-30 in it and am looking for the best filter I can find at a reasonable price. Anyone have any thoughts on which oil filter would the bill?
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Don't try to read too much into any oil filter study where the filters are cut open and then the amount of media is determined. Some will use more media and some less. Some with tight folds, some with loose folds. In no study is the porosity capacity ever stated. If you have alot of media but it lets everything thru, what have you gained? If you have less media but it traps everything to 3 microns, what have you gained when it goes into by-pass because it is clogged? Buy a reputable brand like Wix or Motorcraft and know you have the best compromise possible for your engine. Filter studys, while interesting, are not a reliable test criteria. The Beta Ratio, which is a rating of the filters efficiency, is also suspect as the temperature of the fluid is a variable, the pressure a variable, the rate of flow, the basestock used, and it goes on. I would stay away from Fram for obvious reasons to those that frequent this forum. Just stick with a name brand that isn't orange.
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Originally Posted by Flash
Don't try to read too much into any oil filter study where the filters are cut open and then the amount of media is determined. Some will use more media and some less. Some with tight folds, some with loose folds. In no study is the porosity capacity ever stated. If you have alot of media but it lets everything thru, what have you gained? If you have less media but it traps everything to 3 microns, what have you gained when it goes into by-pass because it is clogged? Buy a reputable brand like Wix or Motorcraft and know you have the best compromise possible for your engine. Filter studys, while interesting, are not a reliable test criteria. The Beta Ratio, which is a rating of the filters efficiency, is also suspect as the temperature of the fluid is a variable, the pressure a variable, the rate of flow, the basestock used, and it goes on. I would stay away from Fram for obvious reasons to those that frequent this forum. Just stick with a name brand that isn't orange.
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I just don't understand why the FL1a was not used on the Escape or the F150. I have not trted to mount the FL1A but I have Plenty of space. The Turbo coupe will need a remote mount due to the steering shaft being in the way.
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I guess I am trying to simplifiy things more than any thing by having to buy only one filter. Also the FL1A is considerably less expensive than the 910 on the Escape. Also the filter on the Escape is verticle, so no oil will drain out. Will it still take longer to build pressure?
Thanks Dan
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Originally Posted by Flash
Any time you use a larger filter, the system will take a little longer to become fully pressurized. It may not sound like much but I wouldn't run anything but the recommended filter.