351c help
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351c help
I am looking at purchasing a 351c. all there is to it though is the block, heads, pistons, rods, and crank and its been fully machined. the guy is asking $1200 for it. I would like to know if this is a good deal and what i should look for, and how hard would it be to find a oil pan, oil pump ,etc for it. I would appretiate your input Thanks! and this is going into a 1979 ford f-100 that had a 302 in it originally.
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Sounds rather pricey to me. I just purchased a 351C with an FMX behind it for $150.00. I picked it up yesterday. It needs a rebuild but is complete.
What year cleveland is it. Which heads?
What year cleveland is it. Which heads?
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not sure on the heads or year , but im callin the guy within the next couple days to find out. Im thinkin the heads are probably most likely to be 2v heads but i could be wrong. I will get back to you though. Thanks
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You can purchase a rebuilt long block from an outfit here in Houston that will ship for less than $819.00 + $250.00 for a core - $1069.00 for a rebuilt long block. http://www.precisionengine.com/g_engines_d_ford.html
Check it out.
Check it out.
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If it's a 2V then it's really not over priced IMO. If it has 4V heads and 4 bolt mains then it's a real bargain. Find out if the heads are already assembled. Also be sure to find out how far over the cylinders have been bored. If they're over .030 then I'd pass. Call a good machine shop in the area and ask them how much it would cost to hot tank the block & heads, bore & surface the block, turn the crank, hone & resize the rods, etc. It may be a pretty good deal once you add in the cost of labor. It also depends on the quality of the machine work done as well. You need to find out which shop did it and ask around to see if they know anything about Fords.
Finding all of the additional parts is neither difficult nor expensive. They can be purchased online or at your local speed shop. I did basically the same thing as you did with my last engine except I got a complete (unrebuilt) short block and separate 2V heads. I got a machined crank off of eBay and then had the rest of the pieces machined and put it all together.
Finding all of the additional parts is neither difficult nor expensive. They can be purchased online or at your local speed shop. I did basically the same thing as you did with my last engine except I got a complete (unrebuilt) short block and separate 2V heads. I got a machined crank off of eBay and then had the rest of the pieces machined and put it all together.
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I found out most the information on that engine. The block is completely machined, and is bored .060 over, and it has been tanked. The heads are 2v and have been machined, port and pollish, and has new springs and some new valves, and is assembled. There are brand new pistons and rods for it and thats about it. Not sure on the year though. but it does not come with any fastners,oil pump, oil pan, etc. Is it worth it?
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I wouldn't bite. 60 over is considered by some to be too much. You can't go any further if something happens down the road. Go to a junkyard and rebuild per Bill. It will be a lot cheaper than $1200
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does anyone know of any place where there is a slight abundance of 351 clevelands, or no someone who is selling one preferably in Alberta Canada?
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Originally Posted by justhaas
does anyone know of any place where there is a slight abundance of 351 clevelands, or no someone who is selling one preferably in Alberta Canada?
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.060 over is a lot for a Cleveland. Most Ford guys will tell you that .030 is the max for those blocks. If it was .030 over with assembled heads it would be a good deal. The block may hold up fine or it could suffer from overheating issues due to the thin cylinder walls. At that overbore it's really a crap shoot.
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i will look around. I want to put around 350 horse into this truck so i wanted somethin with a few more ci. or is there a cheap and effective way to get this power out of a 302?
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you can stroke a 302 out to 347 and a 351W out to 427 or more, there are other slightly lesser displacements for each also. cheap? nothing but garbage is cheap, and sometimes you'll overpay for that! like a .060" over Cleveland for $1200, no one who knows will even take the time to shake a stick at it without a sonic test guarantee. Clevelands just weren't ever made to be bored that much. there is the occasional block that has enough meat on the cylinders to handle it, but they are rare and as elusive as last years easter eggs.