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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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Manual transmission shifting problems

1997 Ford Ranger, 4.0 V6, manual 5 speed transmission, 2wd.
Problem: The shifting is difficult when the truck is running. It appears that the cluch is not completing disengaging when you press the cluch in. 1-5 is stiff and hard to shift, reverse grinds the gear, and you have to turn the engine off to place it into reverse.
Work completed: I rebuilt the cluch with new pressure plate, cluch, pilot bearing. Replaced the slave and master cylinders. I have bled the system. Same problem................ The cluch seems to be soft at the top. I am not certain that the throwout bearing is being press in far enough to disengage the clutch. Replaced the tranny oil with factory recommend.
I am at a loss. Don't know if the system stills need more bleeding, or if there is a problem with the tranny. Tranny never makes unusual noise when in gear and running. When the engine is not running the tranny shifts easy and it goes into all gears. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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sounds like you need to bleed the clutch more.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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I had the exact same problem with my 91. I replaced the clutch disk, throwout and pilot bearings, resurfaced the flywheel and replaced the pressure plate and now its smooth as silk. No problems shifting whatsoever.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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Thanks for the responces. I sopke to a Ford mechanic today and he confrimed that this model of the hydraulic cluch is one of the most difficult to bleed. He described it as a bad design in his opinion. He said that he has seen times where he has spent a couple of hours or more working at it. He said that a little trick that he uses is to gravity bleed the system with a couple of reservoirs of fluid. When completed then pump bleed the system normally. He also said that you can pressure bleed the system if you have the correct tool. He indicated that you can purchase it at your local parts store. He also said in some cases that you can purchase the master already pre-bled full of fluid. I am not certian if that is only from Ford or OEM. I followed his process and it worked prefectly. My shifting is better than ever. I also think it is helpful to waite for a while between bleedings. I let the truck set over night and all day before using this methiod. Anyway it paid off and I am back in business.
Thanks again for the suggestions!
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Glad you got it fixed.

(I hate when I start reading a topic, get the answer, keep reading to the end and am about to reply with the answer and find out they already solved it lol. Glad it's fixed though!)
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Hi, new here! I had the same prob. in my '97. I got the syncros done along with a new clutch system. It worked great for a few months. Now I only have trouble going into 2nd when it sits for more than 4hrs. Once it warms up (a few shifts cycles when moving) it gets better but not cured. Any thoughts on this prob?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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That's odd. How's it work just sitting there without the truck on? These trannys get a little hard to get into 1st eventually, 2nd occasionally, though I start the same, how is it when the vehicle is off?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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Sitting it is just like it should be. Shifts just fine! Kinda wierd huh?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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It's not so much weird it won't go into gear as that it won't go into gear only if it sits for more than four hours. Hows your fluid just out of curiosity?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:19 AM
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Thats what everyone says! I have yet to check it but since that is what everyone says I will do that on my vacation. thanks for the replys!
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:24 AM
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If you know how, can you clutchless shift it at all? Being a '97 it's probably got enough mileage clutchless would be hard to do, but if you know how you could try it just to see if it works, could determine if it was a clutch problem or not.

That being said, if you don't know how to clutchless shift don't try it!
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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i will steer away from it since i don't know how. thanks
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Ok no worries, it's kinda old school. Check your fluid and tell us how it goes.
 
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