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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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65 4x4 , trans & diff question

i have a 65 4x4 , trans should be a new process and dif dana 24. I have no shiff diagram to go by was playing with the diff make sure it works.

QUESTION . DIFF all the way forword is high , middle is neutral , back to the seat is low

TRANS, 1up , 2 down , 3up, 4down , reverse up, grannay low down.

know it a dum question makeing sure its right.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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New Process 435 trans pattern was 1st up, second was down. 3rd was up and 4th was down. Reverse is over to right and down. The T98 was the same except reverse was over and up.

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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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4x4 shift pattern

mtpcage, I am not sure on the f250 but on my 66f100 4x4 the transfercase shift is forward 4wd-middle nutral-back 2wd. No high or low just 4 wheel drive or 2wd thats it.
hope this helps.

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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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barrry, it sounds like its the T98 4SPEED. But their is a gear right below the reverse, i know its not an over drive can it be a granny? if it is what do we call it four speed with granny low/

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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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the NP435, T98, and T18 are the 4 speed granny boxes used in the slicks. They all have 4 forward gears and one reverse. there is no 6th position. If you can shift your transmission into 6 positions, then you have one of two things:

-A 5 speed
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-A broken transmission

As far as I know, they never used a 5 speed in the 60's f100 through f350s, but they did use a clark 5 speed in some other trucks with the FE series engines. there is an overdrive and a non overdrive version. Or it could be a T5 from a newer truck. Or any number of other things. Or, it could just be a broken transmission.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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truck shifts allright i guess, so i would think it not broken. Not saying it isn't. The gear is low so its not the over drive. what makrking should i look for in the clark.

Well it took two weeks to uderstand a 65 4x4 with a 60 bed , why a few days on a five speed .

any help on the ID of the trans will help i don't have any books on that, all i know is that its red.

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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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By my 61 shop manual, you've got a Clark 5 speed. Looking at the diagrams, they have 2nd and 3rd on the 1st shift rod and low and reverse on the 3rd rod. List a 250V and 251VO medium duty and a optional 2621V or 2652V heavy duty. By the pics it looks like there is a large square bulge in the case on the drivers side with a access plate attached. about 6" tall by 3" wide, sticks out about 2" to 3".
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Look on case of the tranny for any markings or numbers stamped or cast into the case. There may be a tag under all the grease and dirt.

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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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1) trans is RED
2) driverside of the trans is stamped R-LK-EE with the number 219016 above
3) on the back of the trans has a round thing with a brake inside (not in use
with a plate for the u joint on the back
4) all the bolts have LE on them.
5) 4 bolts holding it two the bellhouse.

anyone with this type of trans? don't know the history of the truck, all runing gear work fine

let me know

thanks to berry , 66beater on the diff question
 
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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PICS ARE IN MY GALLERIE UNDER, trans unknow
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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I can't find those numbers, letters, etc... in any of my parts books. The more I think of it, it sounds like a clark 5 speed. Thier numbers run in the 2xxxxx's like your number, but somewhat higher. It probably was pulled out of a larger truck with a "Y" block and it fit right in. THe rear brake on the back of the tranny was an emergency brake, with a lever assy bolted on the passenger side of the tranny, sticking up into the cab.
Do you have any heavy truck repair shops nearby? THey'd have books to I.D. that trans. I don't want to say 100% it's a clark, but I'm leaning that way. Someone probably did it for road speed and gas mileage.

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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Wow, you learn something new everyday, I thought 435 and t98 were the only choices for these trucks, good posts Barry!!!! positive rep received.

EDIT:It says I must spread it around first, and I dont think Ive ever given you any???? Oh well, great post anyway
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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That looks like a Clark to me. Lucky find!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Where is your tansfer case. I thought the transfer case bolted to the back of the transmission. At least mine does. A five speed would be really nice.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Someone swapped that 5 speed in. They weren't an option in the smaller trucks.

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