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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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transmission question????

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Does it hurt an automatic transmission to coast in neutral (engine idling)??

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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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No, absolutely not since the pump is still working and the fluid is still being cooled.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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thanks, there are so many urban legends out there, I like good info.

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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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The only reason automatic transmissions should not be towed is because the gears are turning when the pump is not. The fluid remains stagnant and gets heated up, destroying the gears and clutches.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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It is in line with your thoughts about lubricarion but I heard that the rear shaft bearing can run dry and be destroyed if the pump is not running. That is why the manufacturers say it is ok to tow the vehicle up to 20 miles or so without disconnecting the shaft. I was concerned about the other innards. Your answer seems correct.

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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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wondered why i had never seen an Aero towed behind a big diesel motorhome

talking about towing rigs, a close friend owns and drives logging trucks, big Peterbuilt with CAT diesel, tows his diesel Ford TPS to NW Wa first of workweek for drivearound rig, one Monday morning pulled out at 3 AM to head north, got about 50 miles and noticed sparks behind him, had forgot to put the TPS in neutral, dragged that big beautiful Ford until the tires and fancy rims wore off.
now CAT's have torque.
 

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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Diesel torque is wonderful to have under your foot. My drivers used to prefer diesel trucks with half the hp of gasburners and it is just because diesel power is always there, no gear shifting, just power right here right now. Just like a harley.

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Originally Posted by ken1mod
It is in line with your thoughts about lubricarion but I heard that the rear shaft bearing can run dry and be destroyed if the pump is not running. That is why the manufacturers say it is ok to tow the vehicle up to 20 miles or so without disconnecting the shaft. I was concerned about the other innards. Your answer seems correct.

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Are you talking about the Jeep Cherokee? That's exactly what was said in my '86 Cherokee user's manual, but they are talking about the Transfer Case rear bearing. Strange as it may sound, the Transfer Case on the Cherokee has a pump driven by the input shaft.
 
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You may remember that until about 1965 automatics had both a front and rear pump and could be started by pushing them at about 25 mph. I guess you could tow them indefinitely but i don't remember that well. I think the bean counters got a hold on them to make the trans cheaper.

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Originally Posted by ken1mod
You may remember that until about 1965 automatics had both a front and rear pump and could be started by pushing them at about 25 mph. I guess you could tow them indefinitely but i don't remember that well. I think the bean counters got a hold on them to make the trans cheaper.

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Ken:

I don't remember that, I was too young at the time Mind you, I'm still a young man, just in an old man's body now
 
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Remember, Posting Gurus are older than Senior Users, wise guy. My first car was a '61 T-Bird, my brother pushed me to start that Police interceptor 390 several times. Push to 25 mph in neutral, drop into drive listen to the sound of 8 cylinders dancing to the tune of 16 valves. It had a generator and would start with a stone dead battery, can't do that with an alternator, it needs battery juice for the field.

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Gentlemen,

Does it hurt an automatic transmission to coast in neutral (engine idling)??

Ken
I once tried coasting down a long steep grade in neutral. After coasting for a mile or two at 60 mph the engine speed suddenly increased from idle to what seemed like redline. I immediately shifted to D. I have no idea why it did that and I haven't tried it since. Here in CA coasting in neutral is illegal.

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Happened to me too, cruise control accelerated engine when vehicle slowed down, scared me too. Most cars turn off cruise when in neutral, too expensive for Ford.

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Bet you had the speed control on. Mine did the same thing. Some speed controls disconnect automatically when neutral is selected.

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Originally Posted by ken1mod
You may remember that until about 1965 automatics had both a front and rear pump and could be started by pushing them at about 25 mph. I guess you could tow them indefinitely but i don't remember that well. I think the bean counters got a hold on them to make the trans cheaper.

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I think the Ford FMX transmission was like this. I had a 1967 Galaxie that had one, and you could push start it. I think my 1970 Galaxie was the same.
 
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