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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Towing and overdrive

I have a 99 F250 super duty 7.3L PSD auto.

I am wondering when I should and shouldn't use overdrive while towing and why?

Basically I tow either a 16" flatbed with one car (car differs each time)
sometimes I tow it empty
I also tow a dolly with a car or an empty dolly
 
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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If your tranny continually shifts in and out of OD you should lock out OD.

If it doesn't "hunt" as described above, just leave it be.

Shift = heat.
Excessive shifting = excessive heat.
Excessive heat = burnt up tranny.
Burnt up tranny = big $$.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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So basically the reason people say not to use overdrive is because if overdrive is set to automatically engage then it can engage on and off too often. I live in Iowa so there aren't an excessive amount of hills. I was towing a dolly with a little subaru on it last week and I decided to not lock out overdrive. It only kicked into overdrive twice on a 20 mile trip.


so does having a load cause the truck to want to shift on/off from overdrive more often?

am i fine using overdrive as long as its not shifting all the time?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by VR666
So basically the reason people say not to use overdrive is because if overdrive is set to automatically engage then it can engage on and off too often.
Well yes. But most people tell not to use it because they remember the quality of truck transmissions from 15-20 years ago and still think it is the same today. Many had Ford trucks that stated NOT to use OD when towing because the TC clutches were so weak at the time. Some may not have even had lockup torque converters. (I'm no tranny expert!)

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I was towing a dolly with a little subaru on it last week and I decided to not lock out overdrive. It only kicked into overdrive twice on a 20 mile trip.
I'm confused about this one. If you live in Iowa (been there: nice place...I think) and it only went into Overdrive twice....uh?....what? you were going up the only hill in the state the whole time? LOL! Seems more correct to say that it kick OUT of Overdrive twice. So... am I reading your statement correctly?

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so does having a load cause the truck to want to shift on/off from overdrive more often?
Yes. The truck will automatically select the gear based on desire speed and current RPM.

am i fine using overdrive as long as its not shifting all the time?
Yes.
 

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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VR666
So basically the reason people say not to use overdrive is because if overdrive is set to automatically engage then it can engage on and off too often. I live in Iowa so there aren't an excessive amount of hills. I was towing a dolly with a little subaru on it last week and I decided to not lock out overdrive. It only kicked into overdrive twice on a 20 mile trip.


so does having a load cause the truck to want to shift on/off from overdrive more often?

am i fine using overdrive as long as its not shifting all the time?
Actually the main reason that OD towing is not the best at time is not because the tranny is weak but because overall effective gear ratio may be pretty tall for the load in OD and the engine is running at or near maximum torque in OD towing and loading the tranny more than some realize. And it is worse yet if you have oversized tires too. If you have 3.73 gears and bigger tires, it could be iffy at time with a big load but with stock tires and a 4.10, it should be no problem at all to tow in OD most of the time with a 7.3.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Shifting isn't the problem. Drive in the tallest gear that the torque converter will stay locked. The torque converter is the major heat generator in a transmission. When the torque converter is unlocking and locking continually you are creating heat and wear.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Shifting isn't the problem. Drive in the tallest gear that the torque converter will stay locked. The torque converter is the major heat generator in a transmission. When the torque converter is unlocking and locking continually you are creating heat and wear.
This is a riddle because if it stays locked it will not get hot and a unlocked converter does not get hot UNLESS it it operating at a RPM below its stall speed and then it will get warm. Trucks towed for many years without locking converters with no problems but they did not have OD either that could force the converter into "stall" at cruising speed. Thats why I made the comment about tire size and axle ratio.
 
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