Notices

Rattles on startup

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 03:59 PM
  #1  
lloydbob1's Avatar
lloydbob1
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Hartford USA
Rattles on startup

My '91 E-250 with 207,000 miles sounds like a diesel when I start it in the morning. Is there some sort of 12 volt external oil pump I can mount on the engine to pressureize the oil system before I hit the starter. I know they make such a thing for race cars, but, they're probably not in my budget. How much damage is my engine doing to itself?
Thanks
Lloyd
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 04:28 PM
  #2  
Silver Streak's Avatar
Silver Streak
Postmaster
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,241
Likes: 3
From: Broken Arrow, OK
The first thing I would do is throw away the Fram filter you are probably using and install a Motorcraft FL1A in its place.
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 04:31 PM
  #3  
95_4x4_jay's Avatar
95_4x4_jay
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Maybe run an engine oil flush and then change the oil and filter
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 07:15 PM
  #4  
cypah30's Avatar
cypah30
New User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Say Silver is that because the Motorcraft FL1A has a check valve to hold the oil from draining back tru the pump? cause on my 240 w 78,000 I get that start knock also. I using a NAPA filter and its better than the Fram I had from Wally's.
thanks Cy
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 08:28 PM
  #5  
Kista20's Avatar
Kista20
Elder User
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 530
Likes: 1
From: Harrisonburg, VA
My dad's 87 just started doing this ever since I changed the oil couple weeks ago. It sounds just like you described. His has 150,000 miles and I used castrol 10w40 and one of my purolator pure one filters, he uses napa gold but he was out so I stuck one of mine on there so I wouldn't have to run back out. He thinks his oil pressure gauge is the allmighty and he will not listen to me when I tell him it's an idiot light with a needle. I know in my truck sometimes I look down and it's pegged all the way over on high and he says maybe you just have that much pressure... yeah right whatever. Anyways mine has 110,000 miles and I use mobil 1 10w30 with pure one filter and no rattle. Any ideas on his? I know quite a few people on here use rotella 15w40 and I thought about putting that in. It's gonna be getting colder here soon so I used the 10w40 because I didn't want to put something in that was really thick. I thought maybe his oil pump was going to the bad.
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 09:18 PM
  #6  
quicklook2's Avatar
quicklook2
Post Fiend
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,289
Likes: 6
From: Lakewood, Ohio
first, use motorcraft filters.

never use fram on these trucks.

second, new filters even motorcraft sometimes fail. a post on after oil change bad pressure had this problem.
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 10:07 PM
  #7  
Kista20's Avatar
Kista20
Elder User
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 530
Likes: 1
From: Harrisonburg, VA
I never use fram and I know well enough to stay away. Purolator makes motorcraft filters and I've never had any issues using these filters before.
 
Reply
Old Nov 22, 2005 | 11:00 PM
  #8  
mattygeetarross's Avatar
mattygeetarross
New User
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Talking

Why do y'all like the Motorcraft filters so much??
Just curius!
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:06 AM
  #9  
FordF150Fixer's Avatar
FordF150Fixer
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
From: Central Virginia
I like MotorCraft, filters because they seem to eliminate my cold start rattle problem. Back when this subject first came up on this forum, I was using Fram filters and I disagreed with the forum members who said the cold start rattle could be eliminated or minimized by simply changing filter brands.

To test their theory, I pulled the Fram filter and installed a MotorCraft filter. I did not change the oil. I just topped off the oil level to make up for the oil I lost changing the filter. The cold start rattle problem disappeared while using the MotorCraft filter. Two weeks latter, I pulled the MotorCraft and installed a new Fram filter. Again, I just topped off the oil. The cold start rattle was back. Two weeks latter I pulled the Fram and installed a new MotorCraft. The cold start rattle again disappeared.

I recognize that there are a lot of variables involved and my experiment isn’t exactly scientific. But, I have been using MotorCraft for about a year now and I have not noticed any cold start rattle during that time. It is very possible that I simply had two defective Fram filters.

It appears that some filter brands may have better anti-drainback valves. I understand that the anti-drainback valve prevents the upper engine oil from draining backwards through the filter and into the oil pan. It has been reported on this forum that the MotorCraft, NAPA Gold, and Wix filters may have better anti-drainback valves

There are forum members who don’t like MotorCraft and report just the opposite results. Some of those members say that they use Fram filters exclusively and they never have problems with cold start rattle. I would recommend that you try several filter brands and try to decide if you can see a difference in your particular engine.
 
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:57 AM
  #10  
lloydbob1's Avatar
lloydbob1
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Hartford USA
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Lloyd
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:28 PM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE