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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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From Ford...A F150 properly equipped (with the HD payload package) has the capability to tow a monstrous 9,900 pounds! That represents best-in-class maximum towing capacity.

(Class is defined as full-size pickups under 8500 GVWR starting under $45,000.)

The Chevy website absolutely sucks. There is not very much information on it to make an intelligent comparison.
 

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by silverXLT5.4
Unfortunately, the 9900lbs towing capacity is a false advertisement if you ask me due to the limited power of the 5.4. Im not claiming the truck itself wont handle that type of weight, but the 5.4 engine is just not suited for that type of pulling. Hell it struggles to get out of its own way. I think 6000lbs is more of a realistic and practical limit for the 5.4.
it is not a false advertisement. that 9900lbs is a combined weight of truck, trailer, your payload,gear,gas,and people in the truck. that towing capacity is for the f150 base truck with is a xl, reg cab w/ a 8' bed and 4.10 gears and the hd towing package if you add 4x4 to this truck it is knocked down to 9500lbs so on, so on.
this 5.4 enigine is built for nothing but pulling. that low end torque, that hp to use the avaible torque.i work my truck as i've said plenty of times and never has my trucks have failed me. i've had 390's 351's, and 302's also now that 390 is a hell of a worker but i cant afford the gas. i knocked it back to a 2bbl still you could hear the gas moving..
my 5.4 has no problem getting out of its way or the competition way for that matter. it sounds to me ford dont like you and that you need a dodge...
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks for all the information everyone. I figured it included truck weight, payload etc. The article was in my ford magazine that comes from Ford every month. I will say that even though my 03' F-150 FX4 pulls everything I have put behind it I can tell it is back there and when I hooked the boat up to my brothers 04', truck drove like I was pulling the ATV, not the 5000lb boat. Ford, in my mind, is still the strongest, most durable truck on the road, but it was a lot easier to decide on a new truck when they were under $20K or even $30K for that matter. Pretty soon we will all be taking out 30year fixed mortgages on our vehicles.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by exiled
it is not a false advertisement. that 9900lbs is a combined weight of truck, trailer, your payload,gear,gas,and people in the truck.
Just a correction. That 9900lbs capacity is TOWED LOAD capacity. NOT the COMBINED WEIGHT CAPACITY.

That towed load capacity is indeed based on that particular truck you mentioned but the only thing it takes into account is a 10% tongue weight and a 150lb. driver.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by farmtwuck
What is the advertised trailering weight on the F-150? Just last night I saw an ad for the 1/2 ton Silverado with the optional 6.0 with a trailering capacity of 10,000 lbs.

Not that a 100 lbs. makes a lot of difference...
Depends on the configuration. Reg cab, 5.4 2x4 has higher rating than a SuperCrew 5.4 4x4 simply because the total weight is much higher on the latter. I believe the range is 8800 - 9900.

Either way, if you are above 8k on a regular basis, look at the 250 as previously recommended. A 250 is not smooth truck the 150 is, but it will out work anything else on the market (with the exception of a 350). The Diesel is a great engine but the whole truck is amazingly well built.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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I wish they would offer the 6 speed auto that is on the F250/5.4 combination on the F150.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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I think the bottom line is that I would not dare tow over 7500# in any 1/2 ton truck. My towing chores include a 21" Procraft F/S, a 12" utility trailer with 2 full size quads, and a few other odds and ends depending on what I'm doing and who I'm helping. Anything else and I'll look for a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel truck.

I currently own a 2003 Ford Expedition 5.4L and a 2004 Dodge Ram QC. Both tow really well. I like the Expy for its torque down low and the comfort and conveniece of a full size SUV. I like my Ram for its more overall power, handling and the bed to put wet stuff in from the lake, however, either are sufficient to pull anything I need. Both have been relatively trouble free. Just gas, oil, and regular maintenance.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
Just a correction. That 9900lbs capacity is TOWED LOAD capacity. NOT the COMBINED WEIGHT CAPACITY.

That towed load capacity is indeed based on that particular truck you mentioned but the only thing it takes into account is a 10% tongue weight and a 150lb. driver.
i do stand corrected i read my towing chart wrong. thanx for pointing that out. but i do load my truck well over that any way.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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On a more positive note, I pulled my trailer for the first time today woith the new truck (05 SCrew 2WD stock) and it did extremely well. It was unloaded, roughly 4000lbs and I am very happy... Didnt even seem to work at all at highway speed.

I wouldnt want to go 9000lbs, but I cant see where 7000 (standard double 3500 axle trailer) would be a problem. A diesel is obviously a better way to go for heavy loads, but this truck cost me peanuts compared to a diesel equiped rig and will work great for us.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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I tow a 6500#(actual), 7700#GVWR 26 foot travel trailer with my 04 FX4 SCAB, no problem. You can tell it's back there but the truck pulls it fine.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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The F150 HD package is essentially the F250 light duty anyway. It uses the same rear end as the pre-1997 F250's (the 10.25" Visteon rear end).

With a properly geared rear end, as in 4.10, the 5.4 L engine will pull your house off it's foundation.

The problem is the GEARING, not engine power. If you put a 4.55 on the old 302's, those things will pull the Chinese out of China through your back yard.

It's not about engine power, it's about proper gearing. 3.55 and 3.73 gear ratios are not enough for pulling over 9+k. A 4.10 gear ratio is pretty much the minimum required if you want to seriously pull.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by silverXLT5.4
Im not in anyway way slamming Ford, Im simply giving a realistic expectation for towing. I dont think anyone on here will argue that 9900lbs is a bit much for the 5.4L engine. Not that it wont pull it, but the gas mileage will be horrible and this type of weight is better suited for a diesel. Now just because I dont take everything word for word that Ford tells me, does NOT mean that I am slamming them. Also, just because I dont exercise blind loyalty without common sense does not mean I am slamming Ford. Now I dont know how you plan to argue with that, we all have brains so lets use them.
just monday i hauled 7 ton of allgrain sweetfeed on my 16' trailer. its was no big deal. the trick is stopping this is not the heavest that i pull. these trucks will pull. they will work. look my truck probally does 45% of the work around here i have not found away to attach a disc or a bushhog yet. to me my truck is my lively hood. 9000lbs is nothing. heck i hauled 4300lbs of milo in the bed about weeks ago. i'm not saying 250's or 350's arent pulling monster machines, for the money i dont see it when the f150 handles it just fine. $10,000 is alot of money for a farmer. its hard to get that $10,000 back when you have a truck that can do the work. maybe i dont have common sense cause it is not common for me to sit around and wonder if my truck will haul it. i got work to do i just do it. what is common is that the truck always pulls the trailer. and my truck does it 365 a year. no vacution
 
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Powerdude
The F150 HD package is essentially the F250 light duty anyway. It uses the same rear end as the pre-1997 F250's (the 10.25" Visteon rear end).

With a properly geared rear end, as in 4.10, the 5.4 L engine will pull your house off it's foundation.

The problem is the GEARING, not engine power. If you put a 4.55 on the old 302's, those things will pull the Chinese out of China through your back yard.

It's not about engine power, it's about proper gearing. 3.55 and 3.73 gear ratios are not enough for pulling over 9+k. A 4.10 gear ratio is pretty much the minimum required if you want to seriously pull.

the rear end used is the 10.25 sterling semi floater the same axle used in f 250 trucks.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
the rear end used is the 10.25 sterling semi floater the same axle used in f 250 trucks.
is the sterling in the f150 or f250? what spline is that axle?
 
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ford uses all sterling alxes in the trucks.the f 150 uses either the 8.8 9.75 or 10.25 axle ford never used a visteon alxe as far as i know. they went from dana to sterling
 
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