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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
If the seller states a price to ship an item and you bid then you agree to pay the price. If you don't like it, too bad. THOUSANDS of sellers use shipping/handling costs to pad their profit margin a bit which is why you have to read the entire description before you bid. .
I DID agree to pay the shipping when I bid. But I was expecting an packaged shipment like I said before. I was expecting the card to have a package, and therefore shipped in a small box, well packed.

I did not know the card was just a bare minimum thin piece of plastic that can be sent with $1 in an envelope.

It's like ordering a car over the internet to be shipped to your house. The shipping charge is $500 and you agree since the car is huge and heavy. But after paying the shipping charge, you only receive a tire. Then of course you would feel ripped off since the tire would only cost $30 to ship.

Same analogy here. I presumed it to have a package, a 3D item, not a flat thin piece of small plastic. And frankly many more people assumed the same way based on the wording "unopened".

Forget bout the shippiing ok? It's not even my main complaint.

Originally Posted by ivanribic
REGARDLESS of what other buyers have said in feedback you have no room to complain until you can test the card. If you get your camera, pop in the card and there's pics on it then fine, I'll sit here and complain about this seller too. If the card doesn't work, ditto. But until you know there's a problem why are you complaining????????
You are missing the point. The point is not if this card can work right now. The point is I thought I bid on something new and "unopened" but I received a unpackaged and most likely used product. Even if it works now, I have no idea if it will work as well in the future. Who knows who kind of damage it has went through? Heck, there are even buyers that stated their card won't even work right when they received it!

I'm sure you won't be happy if you bought a new car but received an used one. Sure, it drives fine (for now) but would that be enough for you?

The most important thing here is the seller is committing a fraud by advertising something as "new' yet selling used stuff. Don't tell me anything about "OEM" or anything like that. Because it's obviously not. An "OEM" card would not have photos stored on it. An "OEM" card would not have dirty marks on it.

If so many other buyers complain about the card that doesn't work, or is counterfeited, or has "sticky" stuff on it, or even have photos stored on it, why would you insist on me believing this is "OEM" and I should pretend it's "new" and leave him a positive?

A person complained his card has photos on them. That's enough. One is enough. It shows the seller is unreliable and a liar by claiming it to be "new". Anyone in the right mind would know a "new" card would NOT have photos. Therefore I have every reason to believe my is used too, given that is has a stick black stain on it. It's like this: let's say you have a friend you trust. You always believes him. But he lied just ONCE and you found out. Just once. I'm sure your trust in him would degrade drammatically even if it's just once. But why are talking about multiple complaints here!

Fine, I got cheated. I got a used card when I bid for a new one. I could swallow it if it's just money alone. Who cares about a few bucks? But it's not all about money.

I'm going on a 1 month vacation to a distant thirdworld land taking photos and recording videos of my elder relatives that I probably will never see again forever. Do you really expect me to put my priceless photos and videos into a card that I don't even know the history of?


Originally Posted by ivanribic
Feedback is there for a reason, so buyers can check out the seller, and vice versa. It takes 2 minutes to change the page setting to 200 feedback per page and scroll through all of 1000 feeback (5 pages) and all you have to do is look at the red ones and ignore the rest. If you'd have done this perhaps you'd decide it's not a gamble you want to take. Again, the info is already there, you just didn't read it. .
Ok. So a burgler breaks into a house. You are the judge and you say: the burger is innocent and should go free. The owner of the house should've been more careful. It's all the houseowner's fault for being lax on security. Stop complaining. It's a good lesson...

So what if I paid only $60 and Best Buy sells for $100? People are SUPPOSED to get a cheaper price when they go online to buy. That's the whole reason people shop online and wait for days until their thing arrives. The online sellers doesn't have as high of a overhead as Best Buy and therefore can offer the things cheaper.

But had I know what I'd receive, I'd much rather pay even $200 for a card that I can confidently put my photos in rather than even 50 cents on a piece of stained plastic that I have no history on. Not when it's something this important. I'm going to a distant land with no computers making videos and memories of sick relatives near death, I need maximum confidence in my card.
 

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Can you post the auction number so I can take a look?

I'm still curious how you can be so sure this is a used card. I used to be able to put them up to my forehead and read the contents but not anymore. Nowadays I need a camera to put them in so I can check or a computer. Sucks getting old.

Bottom line is you asked "Did I get ripped off?". As many here have pointed out, the answer is no . . . unless you got that magic card reading trick to work and can tell us what pictures are on there. But if you feel that you got burned then by all means, leave - feedback, drive to his home and beat him with a bat so he'll learn his lesson and next time shop at Best Buy.
 

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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So how come the seller doesn't label it more carefully by adding a sentence like "no packaging, or OEM
To make more money off people...

ALSO $4.50 required insureance is a HUGE red flag. He pocketed that cash
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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I could not tell you the last time I saw so many FTE users in agreement - what does that tell you, besides the fact that 30 posts later no one is on your side?

You didn't get ripped off. You got your question answered. Frankly, it sounds a lot more like whining now than legitimate complaining.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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It was a shady deal, just enough to **** you off, and barely what they told you it was.

Give them a neutral.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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have not done much on ebay but is only firefox that wont let you go directly to negative posts?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by unclehan
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4. Buyer Beware indeed, and I've learned my lesson. Now I'm trying to get Paypal to kick his butt.
Paypal will not do anything about it,unless the item was significantly different from the description you will lose the dispute
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by magnum300
have not done much on ebay but is only firefox that wont let you go directly to negative posts?
I haven't seen an option to view - feedback only. Maybe I'm missing something. I just select the page to display 200 and then browse for the reds.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
I haven't seen an option to view - feedback only. Maybe I'm missing something. I just select the page to display 200 and then browse for the reds.
Theres a plugin/extension for Firefox that lets you view negatives only.

Here's a big problem with letting Paypal loose on him.. the processing fee. You are covered for up to $200 with a $25 processing fee. So if you paid $60 for the card, you're getting $35 back. and YOU have to ship the item back to teh seller INSURED and DELIVERY Confirmation. So figure $5.00 for UPSP Priority. $30 back to you. So.. You paid $30 to HOLD a memory card you dont even know to be defective. Oh and Paypal will sit on this for 3-4 weeks. Take the card to CVS or Walmart and put it the Kodak Picture processor thing. If theres anyting on it, you'll see. I'd keep it and get a real, new retail one and take a zillion pictures.


As far as your comment about visiting relatives and not wanting to trust it to a questionable memory card.. WHY would you buy a card off Ebay for that? If that were my purpose, i would spend the little extra and jsut get one locally.


You feel like you got burnt. It sucks. But in the long run, at least you didnt buy a TV or the camera itself.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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The guy has over 20,000 sales. You don't think that he has the occasional piece sent out that does not work? With 20K+ sales is he going to hold the hand of everyone? I have made many computers, and yes, OEM stuff comes scratched, previously inserted, etc. As someone pointed out, OEMs install pictures on things sometimes just to test the product!

Many ROMs for motherboards come the same way. Some tester may change the pictures/text/whatever for a harmless lark when bored that other assemblers will see before it gets deleted. It is still new and unused by a consumer.

The only good case you would have is charging for S&H with insurance and sending it out uninsured. Though both UPS and USPS automatically adds it for commercial accounts for items under $100-$250 last time I checked and it will not state insured on the package like it would if you paid for shipping at the counter.

Your quote:
The point is I thought I bid on something new and "unopened"

His quote:
New, Never Opened

You are using the word AND and he is using a comma. He is selling stuff either new or unopened. He wording is correct for what he is doing and I doubt he is trying to rip anyone off except for padding the S&H.

One point I would like to make is I never bid on private ID auctions. Less jacking up of the price by the seller, especially on cars, though I do not think this seller is doing that.

My advice, next time ask more questions, read more carefully, and avoid private ID auctions. You are still disappointed, but, I do not think the seller did you any harm.

As for reliablity, I guess it is all in the mind. Any new or used electronic/computer left on and used for two weeks is unlikely to fail for years after. Most failures are within two weeks, fwiw.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rebocardo
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Your quote:
The point is I thought I bid on something new and "unopened"

His quote:
New, Never Opened

You are using the word AND and he is using a comma. He is selling stuff either new or unopened. He wording is correct for what he is doing and I doubt he is trying to rip anyone off except for padding the S&H.....
Gotta disagree on that...because he used a comma, BOTH terms describe the item...it's not a question of either/or, as suggested when using a "forward slash"...that usually means that one or the other or both, but the comma separator indicates BOTH...not either.

Now...you've done it...gone and made me sound like a grammar teacher...thanks alot!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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I'd much rather pay even $200 for a card that I can confidently put my photos in rather than even 50 cents on a piece of stained plastic that I have no history on. Not when it's something this important. I'm going to a distant land with no computers making videos and memories of sick relatives near death, I need maximum confidence in my card.
You should have just bought a card from a retail store, I think I got my GIG SD card from Walmart for 89 bucks.... for something so "life and death" you used ebay...

as far as a distant land with no computers, where are you going MARS? I say this because I've got a freind in the PC, down in guatamaula. He has a laptop with him, and occasionally an internet connection. He even had a connection 2 days after the storm down there. This same freind studied ABroad and would send me pictures while in every country he was in Austrailia, Thialand, FIgi, New Zeland, and a few other places.

A freind of mine got married in a remote village in Mexico, When we got there (3 hr ride in a 4x4 on a gravel road / trail from toluca mexico) The family not only had 2 computers, but an internet connection.

Now I'm not sure of your situation, but Im just not sure there are any "distant lands without computers" Hell, even MARS has that computerized vehicle roaming around on it.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Let's see if I can sum this all up nicely:

1. You shoulda read the feedback BEFORE BIDDING!
2. You shouldn't have ASSUMED ANYTHING!
3. If it were THAT CRITICAL...you should have bought locally.
4. BUYER BEWARE...ESPECIALLY on EBAY!

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Been getting notices from a "eBay member" asking me to send a product they bought from me. The notice looks legit and everything with all the right eBay stuff on it.

Problem is, I dont sell anything on eBay neither does my husband (although he has thought about it). We do not have an "eBay Store".

It's a scam from a phisherman trying to scare you into sending something.
 

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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