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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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COE Y Blocks

Was there anything different about the COE truck engines vs. F100 Y blocks? There is a local guy selling a 292 engine from a 54 COE truck. I don't think this could have been the original in 54.

It also has what appears to be some massive automatic tranny.

Forgive my ignorance...

I didn't post this in the Y block forum because I usually get a better response here and, well, I just like the group here better!
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Yes, they had Y blocks in 1954 in the cab overs.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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My books show only the 239 & 256 OHV V8 engines used in 1954.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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What size COE? and does he know what he is talking about, maybe it is not a 292.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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I have a Y block in my 1952 big job fire truck
 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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Y-blocks started in 52 as far as I have seen for the Big Jobs. The 54 should be either a 239 or 256 for the C-500/C-600, and just like the other Big Jobs, should be 279 or 317 for the C-700/750 and C-800. The 292 was introduced in 55 or 56 I'm pretty sure, but I think it was a car motor at first, but I'm not certain on that one. The 53 F-750 fire truck I just bought has the 279, and the 54 C-800 I found has the 317, my 53 F-800 had a 317 originally, but it was gone when I found the truck, and now it has a CAT. Earls world has all the info for the trucks in the reference section. If the guy claims 292, then it's either a transplant, or he's just like all the other people who think every Y-block is either a 292 or 312.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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Weren't these big trucks a little underpowered, if they were all running small-blocks?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Weren't these big trucks a little underpowered, if they were all running small-blocks

Underpowered today but not when the average speed was 40-50 mph. They got up to that speed with gearing and couldnt do much more anyway.

The Lincoln derived Y Blocks were big on torque anyway and had heads/cams to match. The 279/302 evolved into the 332 which was finally replaced by the FT series in 65.

Go here for some block ID help.
http://www.ford-y-block.com/techincal.htm

In the F-100-500 series the only V8 was the 239. The 256 became an option in the 55 F600 which became the 272 in 56. Ford/Tbird had the 292 as an option in 55 (272 was the base V8) and it was standard in Mercs.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Thanks for the help, I gonna get the cast # and check it. Its the only way to be sure.

I've been searching for a running 292 for the truck.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 02:25 AM
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I've never heard anyone call them a small block, at least not until now.

Also, 286merc, are you refering to the FE series motor?
 
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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The FE is a car motor, came out in 58 as the 332/352. The FT is a FE derived truck only block, originals were 330, 361 and 391. Correction from earlier post; the FT arrived in 64.
 

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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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I had never heard the truck engine refered to as an FT, I always heard them refered to FE meaning Ford/Edsel. I guess it goes to show that even though we're all on the same page, our geographical regions can still change the text on that page.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Geography has nothing to do with it, it's Fords name for it. Id guess it means Ford Truck.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Didn't the Fts have a forged crank, and a thicker snout?
 
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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HUH. Well, I guess I need to get a little more involved with the 60's vintage Fords. I think we've only owned one truck from the 60's. It was a 66 I believe, and I can't remember what it had for a motor. We had a 59 ranchero that had a 352 once though. Other than that, we've only had Y-blocks and six cylinders, and a few windsor blocks.
 
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