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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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4WD blinking light

I have a 96 aerostar awd that the 4wd dash light blinks twice than pauses then repeats. Would anyone have any idea or am I off to the dealer.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Electric shift motor would be my first guess. I recently had the exact same problem in my Ranger. Take the shift motor off the transfer case clean it up as well as all the connections and reinstall it. Unplug your negative battery cable while doing all this to help refresh the system when you go to fire her back up.

Also: Interested in selling that van? I've been searching long and far for a 96/97 Aero AWD and am at the point where if I see one, I just offer up to buy it.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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code 02 generated by the onboard electronic 4wd control module located under the drivers seat.
code 02 Clutch connector or clutch coil has discontinuity
large troubleshooting section in Ford Service CD Aerostar section 7-07A Diagnos and testing Diagnostic Flash Code Information

http://www.fordcds.com/

year under Ford trucks

it's a DIY'er repair if you want to spent some time under the vehicle troubleshooting with a DMM volt/ohm meter.
 

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Thanks very much for the info , I now feel I am in over my head with this. And no I am not yet selling it as I am still in love with it.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wresleu
Electric shift motor would be my first guess. I recently had the exact same problem in my Ranger. Take the shift motor off the transfer case clean it up as well as all the connections and reinstall it. Unplug your negative battery cable while doing all this to help refresh the system when you go to fire her back up.
FYI, the Aero AWD system is full time. Not part time like in the ranger. The module controls whether or not you are running 70/30 or 50/50 power.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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Well, more specifically, whether the center diff is open or locked, since 50/50 is an easy-to-market oversimplification.

When locked, 50/50 is just a perfect world nominal that it probably never sees, mainly because there's more weight on the front then the rear. Instead, it could be anywhere from 100/0 to 0/100 at any given moment depending on weight distribution and traction. The extreme example of this is if you when you absolutely loose traction on one end, and the lock function engages and the van still goes. In this case, zero % of the torque that moves the van is achieved at the end that has no traction and 100% is at the end with traction. Thus 0/100...
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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also supplies a great in the seat of the pants feeling when that transfer case clutch kicks in and out that big hollow toad comes from the mud or deep snow, really surprises onlookers in their front end heavy drop thru the snow crust and winch beasts.

are any of the manuf's still building a similar system with split front/rear power transfer and chain drive transfer case? see that one of manuf's is building a hybrid with gas/electric drive to front axle and 1 electric motor on each rear wheel for quasi electronic AWD.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 96_4wdr
are any of the manuf's still building a similar system with split front/rear power transfer and chain drive transfer case? see that one of manuf's is building a hybrid with gas/electric drive to front axle and 1 electric motor on each rear wheel for quasi electronic AWD.
Sure, a lot of the truck-platform SUVs have something similar. The AWD Explorer (V8) did, the Toyota SUVs do, the AWD versions of several of the big GM SUVs, the Trailblazer SS, etc. What varies from one to the other is the way they approach enhancing traction beyond an open diff. Some have LSD's, either viscous or biasing, some have active clutches like the Aerostar, some simply rely on brake-based traction control...

Regarding hybrids, I've heard that some manufacturers are looking at a full-time AWD system like this because they get better regen braking from having all 4 wheels permanently driven, so there are different takes on that...
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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I guess I never realized that the aero awd system is full time awd. Would that mean there are no auto locking hubs on the front much like those found on my 03 Explorer?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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LOL Torsen we posted at vitually the exact same time, so I guess I got my answer.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Right, no locking hubs, no shift motors. FWIW, Explorers have had permanent engaged hubs since '95. Their front axle is much like the Aerostar's, but just a little bigger.
 
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Originally Posted by Torsen Rick
Regarding hybrids, I've heard that some manufacturers are looking at a full-time AWD system like this because they get better regen braking from having all 4 wheels permanently driven, so there are different takes on that...
Usually, the regenerative braking is done by turning the drive motor into a generator when the brakes are activated. I'm not sure that having 4 wheel drive train will make that more efficient than just 2wd, unless they also install a second motor/generator. The ultimate limitation on how much energy can be recaptured from regen is how fast the batteries can be charged. The rate of energy (power) dissipation required in a typical stopping of a vehicle is usually several times higher than a typical hybrid's battery pack can put out or absorb when charging. This is why even the Prius can only recapture about 20% of the energy dissipated in braking.

By the way, what are some of the causes that can make the AWD mechanism lock on at all times, even around corners at low speeds? Mine did this, and it sounded like it was going to break an axle around turns. I had to pull the module under the seat to make it stop. Could it be just a shorted sensor? Is there a self test I can run on it?

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speed sensors on top of transfer case failed, TC clutch failure, wiring damage/failure or corroded connectors
lots of write ups in Aero forum under search function
 
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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XLTWD40:

Remove the two sensors from the Transfer Case and measure the resistances between the three pins. They should read roughly 1000, 2000 and 3000 Ohms. There may be some ATF leaking into the connector, which is OK in my opinion. Just spray the connector with some electric cleaner and you will be OK.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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How about a '95,one in todays paper here.AD reads, AWD,rear heat/ac,quads,excellent, Warranty $5,995. 586-382-6060

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