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Old 04-16-2016, 11:23 AM
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The frame stamp looks legit, to me. Just not correct. Your title would have the correct format, with year, engine code, series code and unit number. Whoever was doing the frame stamping that day must have had a little too much nip from the flask at lunch, and got confused with the stars and letters. Mis-stampings are not common, but not unusual.

I posted the trans stamp for VIN and it matched the title, it had a HT in it. But still doesn't help me understand location of plant, etc... Thanx.
 
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Old 04-16-2016, 12:45 PM
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Well I think that stamp on the tranny would indicate a very early 48, as was mentioned before. The older models had the serial number stamped on the bell or transmission. I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere before, but the plant code, color and build date was stamped directly on the firewall.
 
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Old 08-20-2016, 04:56 PM
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1950? F1

I have what is titled as a 1950 F1, 97HC320819, raised panel bed, small window, three speed on the column. However, when a ran the VIN through a Ford truck VIN database online, it pops out as a 1949! Go figure.
 
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Hi:

I was told that the first '49 year truck vin # was 166980 and the last 1949 year ford truck vin was 268000 making your truck an early 1950 in my opinion. You experts out there please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 08-21-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bullrhider View Post
I have what is titled as a 1950 F1, 97HC320819, raised panel bed, small window, three speed on the column. However, when a ran the VIN through a Ford truck VIN database online, it pops out as a 1949! Go figure.
I am curious as to what database did you find that on? Bradevans is correct, the 49/50 cutoff was around the 268000/269000
 
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:19 AM
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Joe, I checked my F4 serial number against the numbers that bradevans had posted and my number is 98RT-158974. According to his beginning number of 166980, that would make my truck a late '48. There is a stencil on the lower center of the firewall that is 1-24-A, which I assumed was Jan. 24 A shift. If that is the case, wouldn't my truck would be an early '49? It was assembled in KC. Also, on the glove box tag, the bottom line is printed Series F4 Model, then stamped, WBTD. My truck is dual rear wheels and a 9' script bed, is that what the WBTD would signify?
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 49fordv8f4 View Post
Joe, I checked my F4 serial number against the numbers that bradevans had posted and my number is 98RT-158974. According to his beginning number of 166980, that would make my truck a late '48. There is a stencil on the lower center of the firewall that is 1-24-A, which I assumed was Jan. 24 A shift. If that is the case, wouldn't my truck would be an early '49? It was assembled in KC. Also, on the glove box tag, the bottom line is printed Series F4 Model, then stamped, WBTD. My truck is dual rear wheels and a 9' script bed, is that what the WBTD would signify?
Thanks, Mark
Mark, I don't know where bradevans got that 166000 number from, ( I was under the impression it started with 100001) I was just agreeing that the cut off for 49/50 was in the 268K/269K range. Your serial number indicated a 1949 for sure, but there seems to be some irregularities in your serial number. The T is the designation for the F5, F4 would be TL, but I believe that they used the T for both in 1948. So if your truck was an early 49 build, they may have not changed over yet.
 
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:26 PM
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Joe, I double checked the numbers to see if I missed the L. The numbers match in all three places and there is no L in any of them.
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I'll throw the information on mine, titled as a 1949 F4 DRW. It was probably sold new as a cab and chassis as when I purchased it, it had a non stock wooden bed with a PTO driven hydraulic dump bed installed. It had the 226 and T9 transmission. It had a yellow stamp inside the cab that indicated early 1949 build date. I think it coded to March.
ID #: 97HT1860xx. Cowl stampings are SP22B2635383 as near as I can tell. NoL anywhere.
 
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:50 PM
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Ray, Did I interpret the stencil on the firewall correctly or is it something that we will probably never know what it means? What does your glove box tag have stamped as the model?
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Old 08-22-2016, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 49fordv8f4 View Post
Ray, Did I interpret the stencil on the firewall correctly or is it something that we will probably never know what it means? What does your glove box tag have stamped as the model?
Thanks, Mark
The firewall stampings are as close as I can read them. Joe, Harleymsn and I looked at them when I first got the truck and this is what we came up with. Very poorly stamped.
The tag on the glove compartment door does say TL.
 
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:29 PM
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Sorry Ray, I should have been more clear. I was asking about the painted stencil at the bottom center of my firewall, 1-24-A. I assumed that is interpreted Jan 24 A shift. Is that correct? Also my glove box tag doesn't have the serial number prefix as 98RTL, but 98RT, but again I should have been clearer. I was curious about the four boxes in the lower right hand corner after the printed word Model. Mine has WBTD stamped in those boxes, what is stamped on yours? If your truck came from the factory without a bed the letters may be different than mine.
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 49fordv8f4 View Post
Joe, I double checked the numbers to see if I missed the L. The numbers match in all three places and there is no L in any of them. Mark
My F-4 had no "L" in the serial tag or frame stamp
It was omitted somewhat regularly I believe
 
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:44 PM
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My F-4 had no "L" in the serial tag or frame stamp
It was omitted somewhat regularly I believe
My frame didn't have the 'H' but on the transmission half bell it was stamped with the 'H'. I have a '48 F6.
 
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Originally Posted by texan2004 View Post
As suggested by George, the purpose of this thread is to try and determine what the VIN sequence # cut off is between the 1949 and 1950 Ford Trucks. It would also be a good opportunity to try and identify the VIN # cut-off for other little 1950 oddities like the raised panel bed being converted to a flat panel bed and the floor shift three speed versus column shift three speed.

Best way to do this is probably to ask for the following information:

1 - Year truck is registered as (or believed to be)
2 - VIN # (The whole thing including the 98RC, 98RD, etc.)
3 - Bed - Raised Panel or flat panel
4 - Is this the original bed
5 - Transmission
6 - Column shift or floor shift
7 - # stamped into the firewall if you have one.

?'s 3-6 may not be relavent if the truck has had major mods but if you know anything about what was there it would be helpful. I'll be sure to keep results updated. I need to figure out how to set up a link to the spreadsheet or data base I use.

Participation is obviously voluntary but would be greatly appreciated. Any other information on the truck you may want to provide would also be welcomed.

Sugggestions for other information to collect are also being welcomed.

Thanks,

Carl Gustafson - a.k.a Texan 2004


​​​​​my 1948 stake bed vin- has glove box numbers with model WBC also has fire wall tag, and body stamp...but unfortunately no frame numbers or a frame...vin 87 HC- 162946, and body couldn't make out forth caricature but here goes 16k(?0c?)16258...I got the long running boards and the script bed, but the cab is in poor condition, probably because the stake was removed from the front and something heavy slid into the cab...oh and it's chrome yellow...also any pics of how the bed is straped down to the frame at the wood...KC..

. F-3 has all tags but cab floor has been cut out...cool color- matador red poly- Brown- vin 87hy150530....body number 7RHI4G1430.... Richmond...

. F-2 has all tags but I'm taking off the bed from previous...98 RD 209365....no body number... meadow green... Richmond...

F-1 panel 97 HC- 208178. No glove tag... Birch gray.... Highland park Michigan...

​oh and the only box bed I have is from a 51-2 it has raised fender
Macdogie530 much thanks
 

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