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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ferguson777
Great! Thanks guys.

New questions - (gas tank related)

48-52 and 57-60

What's the free width between the rear frame rails (for a gas tank to sit between and how wide is the lower horizontal edge of those frame rails (so we know how much we can trim if necessary)?

What's the free "length" from the back of the cross-member right behind the rear end to about 3 to 6 inches short of the rear edge of the frame rails?

As you can see guys, we're trying to provide info for everybody, not just the 53-56 guys.......

Thanks,
The lower (and upper) flange of the frame rail varies in width on my 49. At the rear the flange width is 1 13/16" at approx. 11" towards the front of the truck it widens to 2 3/16". The free measurement between these flanges is 30 1/4" at the rear and 29 1/4" where the flanger widens.
The rear crossmember (channel shaped) is located 12 1/8" from the rear of the truck and is riveted through the top and bottom frame rail flanges as well as sharing rivets with the rear of the spring shackles. At this point, the bottom frame rail flange has a projection (for a rivet) that must be rimmed off to install a fuel tank. At 20 1/2" from the rear of the frame there is a smaller (angle iron) crossmember that is riveted to the bottom flange of the frame rail.
I have a 9" rearend, there is approx. 31" of useable space from the rearend to the back of the frame.
I have installed a fuel tank from a mid 80's Chevy Blazer, the tank measures 26"x26" and comes in two capacities, a 24 gallon and a 31 gallon. the 24 gallon would be optimal as the 31 gallon is approx 10" deep. I moved the channel shaped crossmember to the rear of the frame, fabricated 2 crosmembers from 1"x1" tubing that bolt to the upper frame flange and act as a backing for the tank mounting straps to hold against. I fabricated 2 more crossmembers in front of the tank and behind it to act as supports for the Chevy Blazer tank mounting straps.
The fuel inlet exits to the right and goes between the bed and the frame rail (hopefully) and will have a fuel door in the passenger rear fender.
I have a couple of pics of the tank in my gallery

Hope this helps

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Bobby,

If this flue doesn't kill me, then yes that information is exactly what I wanted (and more). Not sure that I actually have the will to live though.....

Thanks,
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ferguson777
About the only thing I need to finish the rough draft on the gas tank section of this article is the measurement between the rear frame rails inner edges on the 57 to 60 trucks.

Anybody?


The '57-'60 frame rails (measuring between the inner edges) are 29.5" in front of the crossmember above the rear axle (the one the rear shocks mount to). They narrow down to 29.25" after that crossmember. Hope this helps.

Dick, George,
(From another thread)......Thanks, It's good to be back!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Kenny,

Thanks. Just hearing from you is great though.

Gentlemen,

I'd like the measurement across the width of the cab - from inner door handle tip to inner door handle tip for all years - 48 through 60

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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ferguson777
Kenny,

Thanks. Just hearing from you is great though.

Gentlemen,

I'd like the measurement across the width of the cab - from inner door handle tip to inner door handle tip for all years - 48 through 60

Thanks,

Here goes, on my 49 F1;

The distance between the tips of the door handles -- 51 1/2"
The distance between the fat part of the door handles -- 48 5/8"
The distance between door right above door handle post -- 52 1/2"
The distance across the cab at the front door post -- 48 1/2"
The approx. distance across the cab at the rear door post -- 57"

Disclaimer: I'm not sure if I have the original door handles
The measurement across the rear of the cab was taken at the latch mechanism but is an approximation due to seat interference.
The distance between the doors @ the door handles was taken on the raised panel part of the door.

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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Bobby,

So according to your measurements, your door handles stick out about 4 inches.

Thanks a lot Bobby.

Now I just the same type of detail on every other as well....

I know 53-56 will all be about the same and I suspect the 57 to 60 range will come in at one set of measurements as well. I just don't understand the similarities/differences in the 48 to 52s....

Step up folks, help me make this FAQ do justice to everyone (not just the 53-56 crowd).

Thanks,

 
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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RMF, Thanks!

The '57-'60 measures in at 56" from tip to tip.

Door panel to door panel measures 62" at the height of the original seat (gets wider toward the bottom).

Our door handles pivot approximately 7" higher than the seat.

Hope this helps.
 

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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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Gentlemen/Ladies,

The FAQ thing is about 80% done in rough draft. It covers- radiators - 2.5 pages, steering columns - in process - probably 3 pages , gas tanks - 4 pages, seats - 3 pages and windsheild wipers - 3+ pages.

So without any pics (and likely won't have any) and without any polishing, it's up around 15 pages!

My Editor will have the final say, but I can't see it being shortened up any.

Is 15 pages too long for a "FAQ article" ?

Should it be broken into 5 seperate articles at approx. 3 - 4 pages each or left together as one?

Anybody out there like to critique the draft when it's done in a few days for content/thoroughness/accuracy/style ?

And finally - George - With your vast powers as a moderator - can you get ahold of Cowman and ask him to contact me at the_fergusons @ sympatico.ca as I'd like to get some clarification from him on some stuff he's done on his trcuk - for the articles. Thanks.

 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Fergie -

15 pages does seem a bit long to wade thru. Maybe subdivide it into general FAQ's with the radiator, columns, seats and gas tanks as their own sections attached to the main document.

I'd be glad to critique it for you (for context and style - not content). I'm pretty decent at that, since I owned a word processing business once upon a lifetime ago.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Hey Cuz.... how bout leaving at 'whatever' length it comes out... then at the top give an index with links that will drop you to the proper part of the total article... I see it done all the time on other web pages... so it shouldn't be hard to do... now don't ask me how to do it... I'm just the idea man here



it would make it easier to navigate without all the mouse/wheel work... and boy wouldn't it be high tech !!!

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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ferguson777
... And finally - George - With your vast powers as a moderator - can you get ahold of Cowman and ask him to contact me at the_fergusons @ sympatico.ca as I'd like to get some clarification from him on some stuff he's done on his trcuk - for the articles. Thanks.
Sorry, Cowman has turned off both e-mail and private messaging - no way to reach him.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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I agree with John. Some of the deleted info maybe just what someone needs. Ferguson I am going to proof the gas tank section tonight and reply back to you with my comments. One thing I would like to add is maybe there a way to make this stand out in this forum. Certain subjects like AC, which is near and dear to my own heart, since my unit performs poorly come up as questions about once every 1.5 month especially with newbie's. IF somehow there was a way to say READ HERE FIRST sorta kinda like the way a stop sign works for most folks. Just a thought.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Gentlemen,

I'm not smart enough to know how to put links within the document to take you down to specific sections. Maybe my Editor is - Hey Himmelberg! Are you?

Maybe Randy knows...?

At the moment there aren't any misc FAQs, just the subjects listed above. However, I'm thinking maybe we could put a list of very brief, unrelated FQs in the beginning of the article...

Stuff like - what years of Toyota steering boxes work with the adapter kit sold by ??? will work.

Maybe about 10 of them or so...

O.K.? So I only need 9 more...

Randy? Bobby? Ax? WillyB, Anybody? Got any?

With respect to Randy's question about George stickering it or something. I think George's earlier action of putting that stickied thread that links to the various tech article in process threads would work. Just put the links into it taking you to various specific tech articles such as;

the IFS series,

the rear end article

all/most of Cuzin John's tech articles

the welding tech article when it's done

the internet links article.

etc.

Maybe provide a link to the finished tech article and underneath it, links to the original threads that were used to feed information for it. You'd end up with about 30 links but I think it would/could work....

The effort would certainly help George earn the excessively high pay he enjoys being a moderator.

Except for the misc FAQs, the whole thing should be done by Wednesday and ready for review. As mentioned - Tacson is critiquing one section (more if he wants to). I would welcome a few other critics. None of this stuff is original thinking on my part. I'm simply summarizing earlier threads, so maybe I got something wrong or incomplete. Here's your chance to ridicule my efforts if nothing else....

Later,

 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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I have no clue how to put links into documents or threads (if that's what it's called). Not my forte.

I like the idea of general FAQ's like the Toyota box, etc., and your idea of George including it in the top sticky as another reference thread.

nuff said....
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Is the page in HTML, or some wyswig editor (frontpage, etc.), or just word? With the first two, adding a link to make it move down to that section is easy. I am not sure how to do it in word.

I assume thats what you are trying so do anyway. If I am way off base just say so.
 
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