Alternate Auto Refrigerants
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Hi Guys
i also placed this in the A/C forum.
has anyone heard of or used these refrigerants: Enviro-Safe, Freeze-12, Glacier Gold Hydrocarbon Refrigerants. i found a website www.AutoRefrigerants.com and they make some clams that this stuff is ULTRA EFFICIANT one 6oz can is equal to 18oz of R-12 and is 9.4*F colder. and one 6oz can equal to 16oz of R-134 and is 15.4*F colder. and it take's less pressure to compress it so it save's your compressor also saving you horsepower and gas. AND IT'S CHEAP!! also require's NO license and you can buy it though the mail. is this stuff to good to be true. they also make some HIGH-TECH lubircants. they also make stuff for your home A/C units R-22 and R-502 freezer units. and you can put R-502 in your home unit and be blowing out arouund 30*F. that sure would be nice in my 24'x24' garage in the middle of summer here in AZ. check out the site and let me know what you guys think of it. i would love to get some of this stuff.
Paul
i also placed this in the A/C forum.
has anyone heard of or used these refrigerants: Enviro-Safe, Freeze-12, Glacier Gold Hydrocarbon Refrigerants. i found a website www.AutoRefrigerants.com and they make some clams that this stuff is ULTRA EFFICIANT one 6oz can is equal to 18oz of R-12 and is 9.4*F colder. and one 6oz can equal to 16oz of R-134 and is 15.4*F colder. and it take's less pressure to compress it so it save's your compressor also saving you horsepower and gas. AND IT'S CHEAP!! also require's NO license and you can buy it though the mail. is this stuff to good to be true. they also make some HIGH-TECH lubircants. they also make stuff for your home A/C units R-22 and R-502 freezer units. and you can put R-502 in your home unit and be blowing out arouund 30*F. that sure would be nice in my 24'x24' garage in the middle of summer here in AZ. check out the site and let me know what you guys think of it. i would love to get some of this stuff.
Paul
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I'd be careful of replacement refrigerants, I've heard that some of them contain propane, and if you have a leak in the system that can lead to problems. I'll try to find the info and post it.
Mark
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I worked with a guy that put r22 in his 85 ford truck and he dose refrigerant for a living her charges Liabert units he told me that r22 gos for about $4.oo I plan to use this in my truck instead of r12
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My dad mentioned something about those alternate refrigerants. When ya'll find some information, please let me in on it too. He wants to see about doing that to my 79. Also, is it completely illegal to deal with r12 or is it still ok as long as you have the license? My dad had a license but he thinks it was completely illegal so he did something with the license. Probly put it in a lock box. Just thought maybe someone else would know better than me. Thanx!!
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Connie (only Ford luvr in the family!)
'79 f100 "Silver Ghost" (my baby)
'83 f100 "The Ford" (my first)
'85 f150 "Old Blue" (my next project)
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Try any search engine. It took me about five minutes to find the following. There is MUCH more out there, just look at the Google search at the bottom.
Mark
[link:www.labour.gov.sk.ca/safety/bulletins/flammable-hydrocarbon.htm|Canadian Safety Bulletin]
[link:www.autotruck.net/ati/archives/2001/0401/0401mc.asp|autotruck.net]
[link:www.dupont.com/suva/na/usa/aa/pdf/h45948-2.pdf|dupont factsheet]
[link:www.state.co.us/gov_dir/cdps/FireSafety/Dfsp/pr020494.pdf|Colorado Fire Safety]
[link:www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&q=auto+air+co nditioning+refrigerant+propane&btnG=Google+Search| google search]
Mark
[link:www.labour.gov.sk.ca/safety/bulletins/flammable-hydrocarbon.htm|Canadian Safety Bulletin]
[link:www.autotruck.net/ati/archives/2001/0401/0401mc.asp|autotruck.net]
[link:www.dupont.com/suva/na/usa/aa/pdf/h45948-2.pdf|dupont factsheet]
[link:www.state.co.us/gov_dir/cdps/FireSafety/Dfsp/pr020494.pdf|Colorado Fire Safety]
[link:www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&q=auto+air+co nditioning+refrigerant+propane&btnG=Google+Search| google search]
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All,
You've stumbled across something I know about. R-12, Freeze 12 must have a license to buy. Ozzy 12 is the propane refridgerant and is illegal.
The bottom line is: MONEY!!!!
R134A can be bought off the shelf for about $6 for 12oz. Many machine shops will retro fit your soft lines to "barrier lines". Replace your expansion device. Replace your compressor if you can afford it. If you can't, Get the old oil out as best you can. Flush you old system out with compressed air and something that evaporates rapidly. I use carb cleaner but I cannot officially recommend it. Add the correct oil for 134A. Vacuum your system down and fill it up. It's that simple, kinda.
KingFisher
You've stumbled across something I know about. R-12, Freeze 12 must have a license to buy. Ozzy 12 is the propane refridgerant and is illegal.
The bottom line is: MONEY!!!!
R134A can be bought off the shelf for about $6 for 12oz. Many machine shops will retro fit your soft lines to "barrier lines". Replace your expansion device. Replace your compressor if you can afford it. If you can't, Get the old oil out as best you can. Flush you old system out with compressed air and something that evaporates rapidly. I use carb cleaner but I cannot officially recommend it. Add the correct oil for 134A. Vacuum your system down and fill it up. It's that simple, kinda.
KingFisher
