Flipped hood rear edge
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Flipped hood rear edge
Question for you guys that have installed a hood flip in kit or home fabbed form. My hood still has the orig rear edge and it wood appear that it is going to "catch" if you will, either the cowl lace rubber or the Mid Fifty bumpers
( which look wacko anyway) I would like to think that I can just roll the edge over slowly until flat and straight. I also would like to know what you have used with success for the cowl lace. The kit I am using is NL. Thanks.
PS , I did a quick search, but the post I was looking for did not come up, FF56,RJ maybe???
( which look wacko anyway) I would like to think that I can just roll the edge over slowly until flat and straight. I also would like to know what you have used with success for the cowl lace. The kit I am using is NL. Thanks.
PS , I did a quick search, but the post I was looking for did not come up, FF56,RJ maybe???
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Gavin -
My hood flips straight up/down and doesn't slide back (at the end of its travel) like yours will. The return flange of the hood on mine is really required to keep the hood shape. In fact, my return flange was cracked in a couple of places and the hood shape there was pretty flexible. It would have been impossible to match the cowl with the flange gone or compromised. I fabbed a new flange and welded it onto the hood. I wouldn't roll it back.
I don't use anything permanent right now where the lacing was. I plan to fill that area of the cowl and use an aftermarket weatherstrip to seal to the hood. I am testing some pireces on it now with the weatherstrip attached to the hood and sealing on the ridge that the lacing was on. That setup might handle your clearance problems.
My hood flips straight up/down and doesn't slide back (at the end of its travel) like yours will. The return flange of the hood on mine is really required to keep the hood shape. In fact, my return flange was cracked in a couple of places and the hood shape there was pretty flexible. It would have been impossible to match the cowl with the flange gone or compromised. I fabbed a new flange and welded it onto the hood. I wouldn't roll it back.
I don't use anything permanent right now where the lacing was. I plan to fill that area of the cowl and use an aftermarket weatherstrip to seal to the hood. I am testing some pireces on it now with the weatherstrip attached to the hood and sealing on the ridge that the lacing was on. That setup might handle your clearance problems.
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my 'homemade'' set up goes past those points and doesn't drop down til the last 1/4 inch.I'm not real familiar with the NL set up. The answer to avoiding this is in the adjustment/configuration of the guide mechanism at the rear. Can the guide be adjusted front to rear or up and down? I spent a lot of time engineering that one. Do you have any pics?
Last edited by fatfenders56; Oct 17, 2005 at 09:42 AM.
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As RJ stated you need that back flange to maintain the shape of your hood, I also had repairs to do to this edge. I feel that if you were to roll it under that you would lose the strength and shape at the rear. I know that the issue of the cowl lace catching has been brought up before. I believe that Jag Red had this issue, but I can't remember what his fix was. I'm sure he'll or someone will be along.
Good Luck
Mike
Good Luck
Mike
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Mike is right, I did have that problem along with about 3/4s of the other people who have the same system I have. The edge on the hood just barely touches the cowl on the way down. 
I believe that the prob only happens on the driver side because the cowl must be higher there. Every truck that I have seen with the scratching problem was on that side. You can shave a little of the hood off, but because of reasons mentioned before, you need to leave most of it there for strength. The inside edge of the hood was built up on mine where the metal scruntched from the press. I got a little clearance with a hammer and dolley. I also tried adjusting the "ramp" that the roller sits on, but then the closed hood did not match up with the cowl. 
With some trail and error you can get it right. I would like to see Randy's version be the next wave of hood systems. It seems to solve all the problems associated with the current models in use. Good luck, Jag 
I believe that the prob only happens on the driver side because the cowl must be higher there. Every truck that I have seen with the scratching problem was on that side. You can shave a little of the hood off, but because of reasons mentioned before, you need to leave most of it there for strength. The inside edge of the hood was built up on mine where the metal scruntched from the press. I got a little clearance with a hammer and dolley. I also tried adjusting the "ramp" that the roller sits on, but then the closed hood did not match up with the cowl. With some trail and error you can get it right. I would like to see Randy's version be the next wave of hood systems. It seems to solve all the problems associated with the current models in use. Good luck, Jag
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Could you fab a couple pieces of sheet metal that would have the same length flange as the hood but reversed and then went to the cross brace near the rear of the hood that would act as "ramps" over the weatherstrip and bumpers?The profile could be adjusted to hold the hood slightly off the cowl until the very end of it's travel.
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That has never been an issue with the "no-Limit" set up I have. I haven,t installed any lacing/bumbers yet, but no rubbing on the paint.
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I have not had any problems with mine. Used the rubber cowl lace from Mid Fifties. No scratching either. Thanks to Jags hood brace idea, now it fits good also. Joe
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Thanks everybody. I will take pics asap as I await a third and forth set of hands to lift and set the hood. I just wanted heads up. I removed the MF's dots from the cowl and installed 1/8" Pol S/S buttons. I will place a 60-70 Durometer ( Shore A ) Neoprene strip along the inside rear edge of the hood. I did not even think about hood shape stability, so again FTE rules. No fabbing is allowed from this point on, only bolt on from the 1-800, mag, internet order advertisers. I am still in the running to win the prize and the local contest rep is stopping by to look/see more often. 