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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Could a locker stop working

I bought this 95 F-450 it sat on a dealers lot for a while when I bought the truck I have driven it ever since. Gradually I'am getting more of a locker push in the steering and I'am getting some backlash in the driveline.

I don't know if its possible something has loosened up and started working again ?

Its winter time now (rain and more rain) so I don't have a chance to pull the diff cover to have a look to see if its a open diff or not. The last time I jacked the truck up which was couple months ago the I turned one wheel and the other didn't move. I left the truck in gear and the other tire turned backwards.

I really don't know what has all off a sudden caused some driveline back lash and steering push. I actually have had a little steering push but now it seems to be a litte more prominant now that I changed to LTX M/S Michelins for steer tires.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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if one tire went backwards you have a open diff.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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could be a tired posi maybe? or a posi in need of the Friction Modifier?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:59 AM
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The truck could have a posi in it but there really isn't many limited slips made for the Dana 80s in these trucks. I don't know who the previous owner of the truck was but it must have seen allot of time in the mud it must have belonged to a farm or something. It has a tow hoop under the front bumper so it tells me this truck has been pulled quite abit.

I know the only way to tell for sure is pull the cover I didn't have time in the summer I may have to wait till a sunny day and pull the cover and change the gear oil. I do want to install a Detroit True Trac if it does have a open diff or if it does have a clutch type Limited slip I would replace it. Thats on the wish list of things to do or when ever my wallet allows

I don't think the backlash I'am feeling is in the transmission all the U joints are good. I really don't think that the Toyo M-55s on the rear have that much grip on the road they over power the steering.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Whats the door code say for what axle you have? THis will tell you for sure what (unless someone swapped it out, but i doubt it) you have back there, but offhand the few owners manual i've looked at, i didn't remember seeing a ls option listed for these trucks.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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The problem is I don't know if its been changed the diff cover does have silicone gasket maker around it. The door post code is 73 which is supposed to be 5:13 gears open diff. From the rpms I get on the highway it feels like the axle gears gotta be 4:63s the rpm at 100km/h 62mph is less than it was with my 89 F-450 with 5:13 gears and 5spd.

Like I said the only way to tell is take the cover off I guess I will have to do that to know for sure. Like I said this truck was used alot offroad or I assume it was with the dried mud caked on the front axle.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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or a posi in need of the Friction Modifier?
You know immediately if you forget to add friction modifier......clack.....clack.....clack.....
 
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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is this an auto truck??? if so, tat owuld explain the lower rpms, the 5 speed have a .78 or .76 overdrive (i cant remeber which one). and the autos have right around .7 or .72
 
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Well I had a chance to pull the diff cover off it was sunny and a good day to do it plus my curiousity got to me. The one bad part is I have a open diff I was hoping it was a limited slip but it wasn't. I confirmed my suspicion the gear ratio is taller its 4:63s which is uncommon in the diesels usually they are 5:13s it wasn't my imagination the rpms were lower. Usually you find the 4:63s in the gasser F-Superduty trucks so the previous owner swapped in the taller gears makes me a little happier.

I'am also glad I decided to check and change the gear oil man it was a awfull color it kinda looked like it was alot of rust

No chunks or missing teeth that was a good thing the cover was a SOB to get off it was well glued on with silicone. It took a long time to clean it up the back side was pretty rusty so I took a grinder with a cup wheel and cleaned it up. It took 3 litres of oil thats alot of squeezing of those bottles I used Penzoil Gear oil (80w-90).

Having a Detroit True Trac is going to be on the to do list for awhile I have to put that 1000 dollars into the dumping flatdeck. I would like to have a traction aid in the diff to combat the one wheel wonder.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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makes me a little happier.
Why would you want higher gears? You looking for better mileage?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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I like the taller gears because it keeps the engine from screaming at highway speeds. My previous F-450 had 5:13 gears at 100km/h (62 mph) the old IDI would be revving at 2800 rpm. The truck pulled good at low rpms with the 5:13s but I had no road speed.

Another way to think of it most people complain about 4:10 gears being too low with regular 235/85R-16 rubber well my truck current truck with 4:63s worse. I wouldn't want to go to even taller gears then I would be shifting too much as the truck does weigh 8400lbs which is only 200lbs away from the gvw of a 3/4 ton HD P/U.

I'am glad that I did change the oil that stuff that come out was Yuck poor gears and bearings.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Have you run it since you changed the fluid? Just curious if it helped.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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I was driving the truck today I will probably check to see if I have any leaks tommorow when it sunshines it was raining way to hard to be crawling under the truck.
 
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