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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Define Modular

My last vehicle was a 2000 Expedition with the 5.4. I've always wondered why the 5.4 and 4.6 were referred to as Modular engines.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Modular is a word with many meanings. I would say (being almost genius) that it means the engine has many uses in it's single form. Take the 5.4, and forget what I said about single form. It's in 150's and Super's and the GT. And the 4.6 in Crowns, Mauraders, Sploders and 150's. Kind of a do all engine family.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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well you are in the right direction but.... the modular term means the 6.8,5.4,4.6 share a lot of parts and are made on the same line. most parts swap between them.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Think modular home... I mean they are the same basic layout from the beginning. The water and oil passages are part of the lay out for each cylinder. Stack them in-line and make an inline block, put them in a V and you can make a V-6, V-8, or V-10 or ??

Yeah, alot of the parts are interchangeable between the three engines, but the modular idea came about in the design, not the interchangeability. You can change out parts in a 260, 289, 302, or 351, with each other in many cases. The true idea to being able to design a cylinder and it's associated passages is what makes these engines modular.

-Kerry
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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there is no v-6 modular engine
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc...lar_engine.htm
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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I know there's not a Ford 6 cylinder modular, I'm sorry for the confusion, I'm just saying the modular design could have made into any number of configurations... V-4, V-12, I-8.... the list could be endless, but practicality and profit dictates the use of V-8's and the V-10 at this time.

The heads, manifolds and other accessories to the short block are made strictly for the application (i.e 6.8, 5.4, 4.6 -- car or truck/suv -- supercharged or naturally asparated), however some of the parts are interchageable between the three.

Here's my links to two posts from a few years ago about the exact same question...
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hlight=modular
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hlight=modular

The second takes you on a bit of a trip, but it may answer some questions you haven't asked.

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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Um, according to the site linked above, the Duratec 3.0 V-6 is in the modular engine family: http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc...lar_engine.htm

I even recall that the 2.0 Zetec was part of the modular family. Zetec, Intech (AKA Triton), Duratec. I think that's why they are named alike.
 
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no, not at all even the link you posted only lists the 4.6,5.4 and 6.8. those are the only modular engines.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Read it again. It states that the Duratec is a modular engine and has a link to the Duratec page. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I distinctly remember the marketing push around the "modular" moniker. The idea was that lots of parts were supposed to be interchangable among a bunch of different engines, not just the tritons. I think that the word modular over time came to mean just the current V-8's and V-10, but originally had a much broader meaning.
 

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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I went through the Duratec and Zetec links and could not find the word modular anywhere (use IE's find function). The links at the bottom of the page are strictly related articles... what's the relation? They are all Ford brand engines.

I'm not saying they may not share parts or have the modular ideology behind their designs, in North America the term modular has come to mean the Tritons, 4.6, 5.4 and 6.8L engines only.

As many engines and sizes that they listed on that web site you'd figure something is bound to cross over... wow, who knew?

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
GREAT link! ...and now I know...

 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kspilkinton
I'm not saying they may not share parts or have the modular ideology behind their designs, in North America the term modular has come to mean the Tritons, 4.6, 5.4 and 6.8L engines only. -Kerry
I think we agree. I think the original intent was a modular concept with a good bit of crossover between engines of different configurations. Over time, and probably in part because Ford has never been able to make the modular system work in practice as well as it did in theory, the word modular came to represent the V-8's and V-10

Due to common usage, someone who used the term modular to mean a V-6 would be using a misleading term, even though they may be historically accurate.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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This is why the badge on the side of the truck says "TRITON V8"
 
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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Keep throwing that wrench into it Jimmy...

ColonyPark...We agree, as long as we agree that the original intent was to build engines based on compartmentalized cylinder design, hence modular. From my investigation into the "modular" label, I'm still unclear if the ability to have parts cross over was actually the goal set forth during the original design of the first "modular" group. If this was the case then, as a few have stated in posts past, you could call many engine families modular. 221-260-289-302-351 would be a Ford example.

With the revolution of CAD/CAM, the term modular went from meaning interchageable parts to compartmentalized design. For cost savings, it makes sense to be able to share parts from one to the next. I'm sure that once the original cylinder design for the 4.6 Windsor was perfected and saved as a CAD file, it is the same one modified by a mouse click and a cursor drag into a 5.4 cylinder (ok there's a few more steps, but the time saved over an old drafting table and pencil makes it seem that fast) they then configure the V block from that file. Then they copied and pasted that design a couple more times and made a 6.8. Instead of building customary prototypes and testing them for a few years, as was common only 30 years ago, they tweak the design on the computer. This way you don't waste as much money in developement and testing.

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