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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 04:38 AM
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Driveshaft angles

Now that my mudracing career is over for the summer (and for good), I have resumed work on the trail buggy. Am using a BW 1345 T-case and put Bronco type rear 208 yokes on it in order to utilize early 80's Bronco CV joints. As I was mocking up the shafts, I discovered that the CV's are almost maxed out at normal ride height. I want to use parts that are easy and cheap to find (junkyard). Anybody have any ideas?? I will probably take the cv's apart and see if I can do some clearancing on them to gain more travel, but thats not the best option. I know someone will tell me to go to somewhere like High Angle Driveline or Tom Woods, I already checked out their websites and 400+ dollars for a driveshaft is not an acceptable solution for me!!
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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get some single 1410 junk. you wont have to deal with modding cv's, and they will run at some pretty serious angles
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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who needs driveshafts! they are for wussies!

j/k man.... why is your mud racing over for good?

yea what 'bota said, the 1410 stock joints will handle pretty serious angles AND you will have to be ;ucky to get them to break!

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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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If you are trying to get by with stock bronco crap on a trail buggy, you are going to spend more than 400 in the long run replacing crap... look at it that way.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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I'm done mud racing because I'm just burnt out on it- still like to play in mud, but the racing got serious enough that it was way more work and expense than fun. Back on topic- I have never broken an early Bronco cv, and these 80's bronco cv's are a lot larger but I will look into the 1410 singles if others are succesfully using them. My driveshafts are sitting at roughly 24 degrees at normal ride height.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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I have seen some 1410s that were setup on some really serious angles don't know if it was 24 deg or not but a lot more than I would even think of running 1330 ujoints and they were living, those were on a shortbox chev with 12" of lift and 44s so you know the angles were pretty steep even if the truck was stupid. I also know he drove that truck from California to Wyoming, and back a couple of times plus offroaded it and never had to replace them. But Like I said I saw the kid do it I have never personally done it.
Hey is that your Bronco with the really bling rims I saw for sale over in the HyVee parking lot? And the fact you getting out of the mud racing does that mean your stroker is finally gonna find it's way into the mustang?
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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...but I will look into the 1410 singles if others are succesfully using them. My driveshafts are sitting at roughly 24 degrees at normal ride height.
no man, we are talking about 1410 CV joints they are good for up to like 40*

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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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OK, so what do I find these 1410 CV,s in?? Yeah, thats my brown Bronco for sale- figured I had too many projects as it is, so why not loose a few and put the money in the new trail machine to hopefully get it done by the spring wheeling season. Stroker motor will get freshened up first, but the Mustang is still a few years from completion, or even getting started on for that matter!!
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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i was just talking about a single 1410 at each end....ARe you sure about 24 degrees at ride height???? i would put an angle finder on there, because that is steep!!

is this for one of the rigs pictured in your gallery??
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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It is the second one, titled trail rig. I did use an angle finder, front was 21 and rear was 24, but transfer case tips back a bit. Both driveshafts are about 36 inches long, wheelbase of 106.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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o well, i was referring to the 1410 CV. you can find them on bigger trucks like the F450's and up but most place you'll find them is on the ton and a quarter military trucks!i have seen complete 1410 driveshafts at military surplus stores go for like $100

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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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Well to my knowledge, there arent any military parts dealers in my area. If you happen to run across more of them for that price, let me know. I could call Boyce but I bet I wont like their prices anymore than High Angle Driveline or Tom Woods. I will probably need flange type yokes to run these CV's if I do find any, Does anybody know what the specs are for the NV flange yokes in SuperDutys (spline count, seal diameter)??
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Curious, how much material cna one remove from a yoke to gain an extra few degrees before it becomes useless?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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yea wyld, i'll be happy to keep my eye out but unfortunately the surplus store i have seen them at is about an hour from me and sometimes its hard to get down there. i'll call him and see if he has any cause they get swiped pretty quick

i would be nervbous about removing the material b/c then you are only weakening the whole setup. its kind of like grinding on your calipers.... it sounds easy and is a good idea at first but its not something you want to break when your out on the trail 2 maybe 3 miles from someone who can help!

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Yeah thats why i never did it cutts, but i remove a small amount for a more cofident feel that i won't bind when fully flexed out.
 
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