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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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delphi goes under

i figured this may happen and it did .
http://www.comcast.net/finance/index...09/237971.html
 

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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Kinda huge- it's going to hard to compete with them as a supplier if you don't file.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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I seem to remember hearing not too long ago that GM was caught quietly transferring money to Delphi and therefore propping them up.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyBilly9Mile
I seem to remember hearing not too long ago that GM was caught quietly transferring money to Delphi and therefore propping them up.
GMC has alot coming down on them after this, billions


a buddy of mine works for them and this has been rumored for a long while
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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I might put some money in Delphi come Monday... they were trading around 1.30 yesterday, I think...
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:09 AM
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"Delphi is required to pay GM wages of $27 an hour to most of its 24,000 UAW-represented workers. That's double the level of competing suppliers, according to Standard & Poor's Ratings Services. Delphi also had to pay full wages and benefits to 4,000 laid-off workers in jobs banks, which cost it $400 million each year."

notice I bolded the name of the ratings service?
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Yet another victory for the UAW. Systematicly killing American automobile production.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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They filed the day after giving 12 of there top people increases.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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I use to work for them a long time ago in dayton, ohio. They were called delco chassis back then. It's hard to believe that they r going under since they do so much.
I may also drop some money into these guys because they should try to make a come back and be worth a lot of money.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kevincw
They filed the day after giving 12 of there top people increases.
Just like when Ross Perot complained about GM laying off ten thousand plus workers while giving the GM management team tens of millions extra in bonuses for a "loss" year. His question, how can you justify taking all this money that could be used to keep all these workers employeed instead of destroying the lives of working families. GM's (Smith's) solution: buy him (the company) out so he could not complain at board meetings anymore.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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I seem to remember hearing not too long ago that GM was caught quietly transferring money to Delphi and therefore propping them up.
Not caught- it was their option. More chilling, so was Delphi's BK filing. An interesting take:

http://www.detnews.com/2005/insiders...A01-341884.htm

60% proposed wage cut for factory floor workers? There's a war being waged on the middle class in this country- it's being waged on the fronts of wages, healthcare, and retirement benefits. I'm dumbfounded that more folks haven't figured this out. That's an economic, not a political comment- this has been going on for almost a decade.

The real question with Delphi is who the last domino will be.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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How healthy is Ford's parts spinoff, Visteon, or is this going to be like the airlines? Seven more days to file before the bankruptcy laws change.

Jim
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Visteon's not healthy at all- none of the suppliers are. I'm afraid this is like an airline story- how can you compete if your competitor restructured and you didn't?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Filing Chapter 11 does not mean the end. Many companies have done it.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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Delphi was done for the day GM spun them off. That was the idea. GM did the same thing to (4) Inland Fisher Guide plants in the early 90's and called them "Peregrine". They lasted long enough for the car models to be phased out or Gm to pay for tooling in Mexcio to replace the equipment at Peregrine. In each case the high cost of labor was a major factor.
 
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