Question for distance shooters
As for minor corrections, what can I have done to the trigger assembly? How about the barrel, should I consider switching it out for longer ranges?
If you have any questions about basic fundamentals PM me. I was a rifle coach in the Corps as well, and can give you some pointers that may help. Most of it is from a USMC perspective, but hey, we are known for our marksmanship.
As for minor corrections, what can I have done to the trigger assembly? How about the barrel, should I consider switching it out for longer ranges?
Now, IF you buy the American Eagle ammo (from what I've learned) it's not 'BAD' ammo, but, it's not on a par with actual 'Match' ammo.
That's the beauty of 'rolling your own' ammo.
Loading your own ammo is quite rewarding. I've been reloading ammo since 1978.
I've also found that my Leuopold 3x9 scope is much better than the old Bushnell I put on the rifle when it was new.
As said before, invest in the scope. The rifle is almost 'good to go' right out of the box.
As for the barrel, Remington admits that there is a 'pressure point' on the barrel, when shipped from the factory. (Consistency???? IF everything else is 'right' the pressure point is a non-issue. Again, consistency is the word.)
Most 'gun writers' admit that Remington has some of the best barrels made, straight out of the box.
A good bedding job, along with tuning up the trigger will go a long way.
Tuning the trigger - there are websites that can show you how to adjust the trigger, but, Remington doesn't recommend it. (Disclaimer.)
There are two screws that can be adjusted. I've never messed with mine.
Now, what you could do, is re-barrel the mdl. 700 to .308 Win. The cartridges are virtually the same, except for length. The argument as to which cartridge is better has been going on, since the .308 was 'born.' One argument is that "When the .308 grows up, it'll be a .30-'06." I'm not making that argument, just repeating it. Also, "Why have a .30-'06, when the .308 has better loading density and can do the same thing with less powder and size!"
With a .308 barrel on the 'long action' 700, you don't have to worry about cartridge length and the cartridge fitting into the magazine! (You can load the bullet to touch the lands which will help produce better accuracy.)
In the end, it's all a matter of money.
Another option is to buy a K98k Mauser (Russian Capture, aka 'RC') for a couple of hundred dollars, and have that re-barreled to .308 or whatever and have a truly custom rifle. Trigger units and barrels and stocks are absolutely available, from a LOT of sources. (And the '98 Mauser action is the strongest action in the world!!!)
Sorry for the length of the post. The brain is going 130 mph. (The body, 5 mph.)
EDIT: Bottom line - How accurate do you want your rifle to be; how much money do you have to spend; how much time do you want to spend working up accurate loads; and, how serious of a competitor do you want to be.
(A 'Race Gun' is only as accurate as the 'driver'.)
Last edited by 00BlueOvalRanger; Sep 28, 2005 at 05:23 PM.
My first long range experience was with a Remington 721 (predecessor to the 700) 30-06 with factory loads and a ridiculously heavy Tasco scope. But I caught the bug quickly and my equipment and skill developed from there. My last project rifle was a Ruger VSS .22-250 heavy barrel with a laminated stock. For kicks, I had it rebarreled to .22-250 Improved, bought dies and stuff and put on a Leupold Vari-X III target scope 6-18x. Once I got it dialed in, my dad and I would play around shooting playing cards at 300 meters. I've taken a couple of crows out past 450, and it's quite an exhilirating feeling. I still have all my guns, and am saving up for a new project, which will either be a .257 weatherby or a 7mm Lazzeroni all tricked out. Enjoy the sport.
Most of the shooters are still using the Leopold scopes. I have several of the 6.5x 20 target scopes from them that have been modified to stronger power and centered for each rifle. They cost more than your $1200. budget but you can find fairly reliable scopes for less. If you want to change to a 308, your 30-06 will have the same bolt face and a spacer for the magazine is an option if you want to keep the same gun but a different cartridge. There are a world of barrel makers out there. My preference is the Apex or McMillian but there are others that make good barrels. For a custom chambering you will need to handload and send in 3 cartridges with the bullet in a sized case that you intend to shoot. They will match the chamber and any freebore to your sample. Also, some of the local shooters that are competeing in the 200 meter offhand matches are using the Winchester ammo that is in the plain white box. Some of these guys are shooting under an inch with this ammo offhand. That's better than I can do offhand-a lot better. You might want to start with handloading first as that is going to be pretty much a requirement for long range accuracy. Most of the guys start with RCBS equipment. You can get into it for around 4-500 bucks depending on how much you want on the first round of buying. Be forwarned, this sport is highly addictive and expensive. I probably have over $10,000 in just equipment that I have bought over the last 30 years. By the year, that ain't bad and I would hate to have to buy it all over again. It's a fun sport and the folks that you will meet are generally top notch and helpful. Just jump in somewhere and enjoy the ride.
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My first rifle was a Savage arms 7mm-08 (a .308 necked down to 7mm) with a 24" barell and a bushnell 3-9 power scope mounted on it.
I tried ONE POWDER in different amounts and with one bullet weight and manufacturer to try and get a good dear load. After shooting up about 50 rounds, I had the thing at one inch groups at one hundred yards.
So let's review, cheap (but good) gun, cheap optics, and a small amount of loading equals accuracy.
I still can run the entire powder mill and find one that burns quicker for the wildcat cartridge, or try different bullets with different weights, or different brass, or better optics, or action modification/honing, and I'm already at acceptable accuracy. I think the -06 you have is capable of being a tack driver. Load your own and go from there.





