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And, the only way to really make sure its'a 428 is to measure the bore and stroke (or ID the crank to get the stroke).
Assume it is a 360 and then you can be surprised if it turns into a 390, 427 or 428.
If it turns out to be a 427, just call me to relieve you of that lemon :-)
Check out the FAQ at the top of the FE forum for some good ID tips.
Assume it is a 360 and then you can be surprised if it turns into a 390, 427 or 428.
If it turns out to be a 427, just call me to relieve you of that lemon :-)
Check out the FAQ at the top of the FE forum for some good ID tips.
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Crawl under the truck and look for casting numbers that are located on the front pass, side for most FE motors. If you find one, then refer to this site.
http://www.ford"remove"ification.com/FEcasting-numbers.htm Make sure you remove the "remove"
http://www.ford"remove"ification.com/FEcasting-numbers.htm Make sure you remove the "remove"
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the casting numbers are almost useless they all had the same block and are indentical on the outside. i would assume it is a 360 like gtex said . until you find out for sure. but 99.99% of the time it will be a 360 or 390.
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I humbley disagree with you GasHog. Most All Fe Blocks have a specific casting number. IE C7ME, C8AE, D3TE, D4TE ECT....ECT... Now the casting number will NOT tell you the specific bore, it will give you a specific starting point. For example, if your casting is D3TE-1, then you either have a 360 or 390 truck block. But if the casting numbers are C7ME-C, no doubt it's a 428 block. It's not a fail safe way of identifing a block, it's a real good starting point before tearing down a block and checking for bore size. Refering to the casting number will most likely rule out the possibility of a 428/427 being in his truck.
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Well I have a C6ME block that has 66-427 on the back and its a 428 bore??Date code 9B5 ...put that one together???
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Originally Posted by 428FE_Freek
I humbley disagree with you GasHog. Most All Fe Blocks have a specific casting number. IE C7ME, C8AE, D3TE, D4TE ECT....ECT... Now the casting number will NOT tell you the specific bore, it will give you a specific starting point. For example, if your casting is D3TE-1, then you either have a 360 or 390 truck block. But if the casting numbers are C7ME-C, no doubt it's a 428 block. It's not a fail safe way of identifing a block, it's a real good starting point before tearing down a block and checking for bore size. Refering to the casting number will most likely rule out the possibility of a 428/427 being in his truck.
What's a C6ME-6015-A block???
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Originally Posted by RapidRuss
Well I have a C6ME block that has 66-427 on the back and its a 428 bore??Date code 9B5 ...put that one together???
Russ
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There are sooooo many of these engines which have been disassembled and rebuilt with every FE part known to man that I would never rely on a block casting number.
Besides, Ford didn't follow their own rule book and put together some factory Frankenford engines of their own. Ford used all sorts of molds and casting number mismatches. It is safer to say don't rely on casting numbers and rely on measurements instead. Even after doing that you may still not really know completely what block you are dealing with.
Besides, Ford didn't follow their own rule book and put together some factory Frankenford engines of their own. Ford used all sorts of molds and casting number mismatches. It is safer to say don't rely on casting numbers and rely on measurements instead. Even after doing that you may still not really know completely what block you are dealing with.
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it has been shown over and over ford was never really consistant with the numbers sometimes they forgot to change them over or some have no marks. by this time most have been rebuilt to other things. most 360 engines were turned into 390's. ft blocks have been made 428's.
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Well Just for instance, If you look at the date code on my 428 in my gallery I think you can see where the 9 on the 9B5 date code ,looks like it was cast over a 2 ? Go figure? If you see the block its a plane as day!!
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Originally Posted by my79f
if it didnt come stock what else could have come in a 74' ranger. its also got a c6 if that helps.
just another question. its off topic but what would a 427 side oiler go for on the market
just another question. its off topic but what would a 427 side oiler go for on the market
I'm not sure what all could be in a 74. But, I'm thinking with a C6 it was probably an FE (360 or 390), but could have been a 429/460 and maybe even a 351, although those might have come with a C4?? I'm just guessing, don't listen to me:-) Let's just say, there were a lot of different Ford engines in 74.
As for a 427 side-oiler: there's a lot of variation in price depending on condition. A smooth running low mileage motor that needs nothing could fetch well over $5000, with ceratin variations going for more, maybe way more. If the block is in good enough shape to rebuild, then I would say $2000 is a minimum. Check ebay for some 427 stuff pricing.