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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Spark ?

What ignites the fuel. Long time ago I thought the glow plugs took the place of spark plugs. I now know that is not the case .

What lights the fuel????
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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Simply put: The heat generated by compressing air.

Any time you compress anything, it creates heat. A diesel engine uses this heat to ignite a precisely metered amount of fuel -injected at precisely the right time- to cause combustion.

Glow plugs are only used when cold to help with the heat required to ignite the fuel. Glow plugs do not ignite the fuel.

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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Yep. Lots more compression than a gas engine.

Read this: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/diesel1.htm
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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when we fill air tanks a the fire department, we fill them to 4500 PSI from anywhere between 0 and 4500.....and the tanks get HOT. if you filled them fast enough, they'd be WAY too hot to touch. poof, compression creates heat.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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heated air

friction, air molecules rubbing on eachother..
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RedStroker6
when we fill air tanks a the fire department, we fill them to 4500 PSI from anywhere between 0 and 4500.....and the tanks get HOT. if you filled them fast enough, they'd be WAY too hot to touch. poof, compression creates heat.
Ah, good to see another firefighter on the boards... Next time you are filling your tanks, do a quick fill and then watch the tank pressure drop over the next few minutes. You can always tell when the rookies have been filling packs, the air pressure will drop from 4500 to 3800 as it cools but not until they have put the tanks back on the truck...

Sorry for the distraction guys, indulge me...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Make that another fireman, 4200!!!! ours are only 2170 I wanna say. I dont exactly remember, but its not that high. good for about 12 minutes on the old guys to 17 for me.

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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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You guys are using steel tanks, they are rated for 2,200 lbs. The new Scott airpacks are carbon fiber and are rated for 4,500 lbs. They'll last on average about 30 minutes. Our RIT pack is a one hour tank but it weighs a ton...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Make that another one!! We just got new Scott CF tanks, but ours are also only 2200s. I like the new packs, though. Integrated PASS, heads-up display, voice amp, gotta love new tech toys!!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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that sure must get heavy carrying one to two tons around...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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i heard those new packs were really fagile...you look at it wrong and it breaks...the old SCott 4.5's you could throw off a cliff and it would still work.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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It's called Heat of Adiabatic Compression.... It makes the diesel engine work and fills our air packs. We use MSA SCBA with 2216 carbon fiber cylinders. I think the whole pack weighs less than 8 lbs. When I first started we used steel cylinders that were over 20 lbs just for the cylinder and the pack was about 15lbs.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Could not edit my last post... Heres what I wanted to say.
It's called Heat of Adiabatic Compression.... It makes the diesel engine work and makes our SCBA cylinders hot when they are fill fast. We use MSA SCBA with 2216 carbon fiber cylinders. I think the whole pack weighs less than 8 lbs. When I first started we used steel cylinders that were over 20 lbs just for the cylinder and the pack was about 15lbs.
 
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