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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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What size receiver, ball and ball mount would I need to drag around a 3800 lb car and 1800 lb tandem axel trailer? All I have now on my 86 150 is a bumper hitch. This is a short term set up. I need to drag my car to different body shops locally in my area for paint job esitmites. Any information, including prices, brand names, best pieces for the money is greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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I would recommend installing a frame mounted hitch and brake controller. Determine the ball size for the trailer you are using ( 2" or 2 5/16"). Measure the distance from the ground to where the ball goes into the trailer to determine how much drop you need in the draw bar where you will be installing the ball.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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I do apreciate the info, it'll come in handy when I do set up my truck to tow. But fortunitly, I was talking to a friend after I posted here about this issue. He said, use my truck. He's picking up a used Honda, with the price of gas and all. So it'll be sitting, When I'm ready I can use/keep it for a few weeks at a time. It usually towes a 6000lb boat, and he said it doesn't even breath hard doing it. It's all set up, with trailer brakes, Class 4 hitch, complete. I told him I'd compensate him, he just laughed and said the price of gas will kill me enough(it's a Dodge). Don't worry about it.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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I do apreciate the info, it'll come in handy when I do set up my truck to tow. But fortunitly, I was talking to a friend after I posted here about this issue. He said, use my truck. He's picking up a used Honda, with the price of gas and all. So it'll be sitting, When I'm ready I can use/keep it for a few weeks at a time. It usually towes a 6000lb boat, and he said it doesn't even breath hard doing it. It's all set up, with trailer brakes, Class 4 hitch, complete. I told him I'd compensate him, he just laughed and said the price of gas will kill me enough(it's a Dodge). Don't worry about it.
Yeah, that should do the trick. Pulling 5600lbs without trailer brakes might be a bad idea (and illegal in many, if not all, states.) You friend is saving you from having to buy a new hitch, drawbar, ball, and brake controller (not to mention the $$ or time you'll spend installing all of this stuff.) This is a nice gesture, given the gas $$ you're going to have to fork over just to get the truck and trailer out of your driveway!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Will my bumper hitch drag a tandem axel car trailer empty(about 1800lbs)? It'll be much easier to do it this way, just to get the trailer to my house. That way it'll be here when I need it. I can get my buddies truck at work, but the traiter is an hour away. Don't worry, I'm not a chance taker, if I can tow it this way, I only want to tow it here empty.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MSC
Will my bumper hitch drag a tandem axel car trailer empty(about 1800lbs)? It'll be much easier to do it this way, just to get the trailer to my house. That way it'll be here when I need it. I can get my buddies truck at work, but the traiter is an hour away. Don't worry, I'm not a chance taker, if I can tow it this way, I only want to tow it here empty.
Most bumper hitches are rated at 2000 lbs, but check local laws to see if brakes are required. General guidlines can be found here. http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htm
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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I need brakes over 3000lbs. So am I reading it correct, that for an empty trailer @ 1800lbs I wouldn't need brakes?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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I need brakes over 3000lbs. So am I reading it correct, that for an empty trailer @ 1800lbs I wouldn't need brakes?
I think that's correct. Asssuming that the law in your state refers to the actual trailer weight (rather than the Max Gross Weight of the trailer,) you would be fine pulling that trailer empty without brakes. You would, however, need breakes if you put something on it that weighed 1200 pounds or more.
 
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Brake requirements are based on gross weight, your bumper pull should handle the unloaded 1800 lb trailer with ease even without brakes but if it is rated over 3000 lb gross, brakes are required even if unloaded.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MSC
Will my bumper hitch drag a tandem axel car trailer empty(about 1800lbs)? It'll be much easier to do it this way, just to get the trailer to my house. That way it'll be here when I need it. I can get my buddies truck at work, but the traiter is an hour away. Don't worry, I'm not a chance taker, if I can tow it this way, I only want to tow it here empty.
Yes, You can pull the trailer empty with no brakes, no problems. You will probably hardly notice it behind you. Hauling a few 2x4s would be ok, but a vehicle on board needs a receiver hitch if you are pulling it off your property.

Look under the truck and see how little the bumper is fastened with.

John
 
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