Notices

Headlight Switch Being a Pain

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 24, 2005 | 03:26 PM
  #16  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,507
Likes: 5,563
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
i got it from the local ford dealers parts department.
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:22 AM
  #17  
kotzy's Avatar
kotzy
Elder User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 970
Likes: 3
Ford truck headlight switches have somewhere around a 20 amp breaker
and the load is pretty close to the rating of the breaker. Once it gets
a little weak any additional load causes problems. We always put relays
on them for the auxillary lighting. They are only a couple of bucks and
if you feed the headlights thru the relay(a major part of the load) you
may find them brighter.
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 05:33 PM
  #18  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,984
Likes: 2,738
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by kotzy
Ford truck headlight switches have somewhere around a 20 amp breaker
and the load is pretty close to the rating of the breaker. Once it gets
a little weak any additional load causes problems. We always put relays
on them for the auxillary lighting. They are only a couple of bucks and
if you feed the headlights thru the relay(a major part of the load) you
may find them brighter.
I agree, but the circuit that keeps burning out is the running lights circuit. Looks like they undersized that circuit(tan/white wire) or the plugs were possibly a poor design and not making a good connection on the switch?
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 06:31 PM
  #19  
Icicle's Avatar
Icicle
Postmaster
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,038
Likes: 2
From: Spokane WA
Guys, make sure Dave (franklin2) gets some rep points for this, I cant give him any, but anytime someone asks a wiring question, he whips out a wiring diagram, and he still only has one green dot, I think that needs to change........
 
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:04 AM
  #20  
83STICK's Avatar
83STICK
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Update......
For $ 12.90 at the local dealer picked up the "Universal" connector that Ford recommends for the 83 F150. However it does not fit. I took in the headlight switch, which is a Ford part by the way, and the guys at Ford couldn't get the "Universal" connector on either. So now, back to square 1, I guess it's off to the Junk Yard.
 
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:57 AM
  #21  
edwardldog's Avatar
edwardldog
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,045
Likes: 0
From: Rochester, Washington
Originally Posted by Icicle
Guys, make sure Dave (franklin2) gets some rep points for this, I cant give him any, but anytime someone asks a wiring question, he whips out a wiring diagram, and he still only has one green dot, I think that needs to change........
I did what I could....

now for the lightswitch. I ran out of the most important thing needed to accomplish that.......

Fundage!!
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 02:35 PM
  #22  
83STICK's Avatar
83STICK
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Is there a way I can determine where the wire might be bad and replace that section of wire??
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 06:04 PM
  #23  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,984
Likes: 2,738
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by 83STICK
Ok, I'v got a plug with a slight burnt spot on it, I didn't notice any broken wires. Would the best thing be to get a used plug, or try and fix the existing plug? As it stands now, I can also move the light switch carefully to get all the lights running, but that dosen't help when it comes to an inspection. So any thought's would be appraciated.
Thanks, B
I looked back through the thread and see that your running lights do not come on correct? If so, then the problem is going to be related to the tan/white wire. I know the picture is a little fuzzy, but hopefully you can make it out.

 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Sep 17, 2005 | 07:22 AM
  #24  
83STICK's Avatar
83STICK
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
So the Tan/White wire is my power in?
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2005 | 08:33 AM
  #25  
Holmesuser01's Avatar
Holmesuser01
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,137
Likes: 2
From: Asheville, NC
Sometimes, wires will burn after someone tries to wire up a trailer harness. I doubt that Ford installed undersized wire.

Not all headlight switches have burns on the plugs.

I replaced my headlight switch this morning on my '83. The **** and shaft pulled out when I went to turn on the lights last night. The previous owner had told me that he pulled the **** too hard once, and had partially jammed the switch. It worked as it was for over a year for me. I installed a Ford original switch, and dimmer switch. Works just as it should. The plugs and wires are in good shape. I cleaned all the spade connectors in the harness and put it all back together.

Best thing: now I dont have to fiddle with the **** to get my instrument lights to work!!!
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2005 | 09:51 AM
  #26  
83STICK's Avatar
83STICK
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Quick question....
What if I don't have a Tan & White wire? Is it possible?
I looked on the side of the door and it says that the truck was made in April Of 83, any reason to think the connector is for s different model?
Thanks, B
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2005 | 10:50 AM
  #27  
83STICK's Avatar
83STICK
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
As near as I can tell, I'm getting power in for the head lamps and the running lights, based on the diagram above. Ok, next thought?

Short in the out put wire??

Thanks for any thoughts.
B
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2005 | 11:24 AM
  #28  
83STICK's Avatar
83STICK
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Ok, Maybe I'm reading the diagram incorrectly (wouldn't be the first time)... Reading left to right, That would be front to back on the switch, that seem correct?

Thanks, B
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2005 | 03:21 PM
  #29  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,984
Likes: 2,738
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
The headlight switch has several power inputs.

Black/orange is for the headlights only.

tan/white is for the running lights and the dash lights only.

You should be able to take off the plug to the switch, and probe the plug with a meter or testlight, and get power all the time on the tan/white(yes, you should have this wire), and the black/orange wire.

If you get power on these inputs, then you can try another experiment. Take a short piece of wire, and jam it into the tan/white, and then jam the other end into the brown wire. The running lights should light up.

You can also test the switch. Eyeball were the tan/white and the brown wire locations are in the plug. Figure out which switch lugs go to the tan/white and the brown wire. Take an ohmmeter on rx1 scale. Put on lead of the meter on one of the lugs, and the other lead on the other lug you figured out. When you pull the switch half-way, and all the way, you should get continuity on the meter.

If you can't find the tan/white wire, figure it out by process of elimination. If you can find all the other wires, then there should be one left. If it's very dark colored, it may have already gotten hot and discolored it. They have been known to melt the insulation completely away.
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2005 | 04:41 PM
  #30  
83STICK's Avatar
83STICK
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
UPDATE:
1) Its Fixed!!
2) I'm no mechanic!! Hehe...
3) My tan/white wire had burnt off, and I just over looked where it should of been on the connector. So long story short, I attached a new end, threw it into the existing connector, attached the headlight switch, everything works great!
Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:39 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE