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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Hi, I have a 1967 Ford Camper Special, can anyone tell me how to put disc brakes on it and where I can get them? I am restoring it with my son and would like to make it a bit nicer and easier for him to drive.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Here's a thread we recently had on this topic:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=395435
 
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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You don't really need to go through all the trouble to put in disc brakes. All you need to do is add a power booster and you'll have power brakes. You won't know the difference. If you really wanna go all the way, here's the fte tech paper:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...rd_Trucks.html
 

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Originally Posted by qman
You don't really need to go through all the trouble to put in disc brakes. All you need to do is add a power booster and you'll have power brakes. You won't know the difference. If you really wanna go all the way, here's the fte tech paper:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...rd_Trucks.html
Yep, that's the way I feel about it, but folks start waving their "disc brakes are better" fingers. To hear them talk about drum brakes they think it's akin to dragging your feet on the street to make your truck stop.
Oh well, I guess, if somebody really thinks it's worth the work, it's their truck.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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I own a 72 F100 Custom and I have a friend who owns a 72 F100 Sport Custom. I have non-power drums and he has power drums. I visited him this summer and his power drum brakes feel like any power disc brakes I've ever felt. The important thing is that it just takes a light touch to stop the truck. I picked up a power booster from a salvage yard a couple weeks back and when I have time I'm gonna install it. I was gonna go all the way and do the disc conversion until I learned it wasn't necessary. The icing on the cake was when I drove my friend's truck. It had power brakes and the only difference between his truck and mine was the booster.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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I hope this isn't considered off thread:

I want to add a power booster to my '70 F250 4x4. Is it as simple as installing the booster behind the master cylinder and hooking up vacuum (bleed brakes I suppose too.)?

Thanks all for your help.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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It is supposed to be for the F100 (from what I've read in these threads) but I think there's something different about the F250. I quickly browsed the fte link that I posted above and it just says trucks, not half-ton trucks. Start a new thread and ask.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by qman
It is supposed to be for the F100 (from what I've read in these threads) but I think there's something different about the F250. I quickly browsed the fte link that I posted above and it just says trucks, not half-ton trucks. Start a new thread and ask.
Will do.

Thanks for the guidance.
 
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Gents count me in on the disc side. Adding power assist to your existing system is not factory engineered for your truck. That may not be important in your consideration, but factors in greatly for me. Your skill or luck level may be high enough to get by, but some poor reader may think I can do that and get a mismatched setup, and end up hurting himself or another.

Generally we will era on the side of safety. IMHO

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
Gents count me in on the disc side. Adding power assist to your existing system is not factory engineered for your truck. That may not be important in your consideration, but factors in greatly for me. Your skill or luck level may be high enough to get by, but some poor reader may think I can do that and get a mismatched setup, and end up hurting himself or another.

Generally we will era on the side of safety. IMHO

John
Huh? That first line doesn't make any since power assist was a factory option for these trucks whereas disc brakes were not.
And clearly disc brakes are not any superior for braking power or our semi-trucks would had long ago been using them.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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I'm a disc brake band wagoner.... the power drum set up is good for hauling lots of heavy stuff, but when you are empty, and it's wet you will have less control. drums are designed to lock up....not intentionally designed that way, just inherant. I use my truck for a cruiser, not for a work truck, and if and when I do have a heavy load in it that's what the rear drums are for.

disks don't tend to lock up quite so easily, and have more control in wet/icy weather.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Chevy_Eater, I'm with you. The power drums were the option and I don't believe it is a getting by thing. Now there is one thing to be said for discs. It rained here pretty hard yesterday and I went through a big puddle of water. When I hit the brakes at the next light the truck was pulling hard left. Now I remember the old days when drum brakes took some time to dry out after getting wet.
 
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I agree. And there are advantages to disc brakes, lower maintenance, easier to work on, and they do handle the water better than the drum. It's just my humble opinion that it's not worth the work for conversion. I do feel the power booster is a good idea and an easy one for drum brakes, my '69 f-250 with power drums stops a whole heck of a lot better than my '62 with manual drums. The '69 power drum truck doesn't stop any worse than my previous '79 f-250 and '84 f-250 with power disc.
 
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Huh? That first line doesn't make any since power assist was a factory option for these trucks whereas disc brakes were not.
And clearly disc brakes are not any superior for braking power or our semi-trucks would had long ago been using them.
You need to take a look at any new commercial truck under 32,000 lbs. Anything under 32,000 uses hydrolic brakes and has discs up front and sometime discs on the rear. Air brake systems use drums because of the special requirements for an air system. Air drum brakes are a lot simpler than an air disc system. Disc brakes are not used on semi trucks because of the expense of putting two seperate brake systems on each truck and trailer,
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by redhawkssh44
You need to take a look at any new commercial truck under 32,000 lbs. Anything under 32,000 uses hydrolic brakes and has discs up front and sometime discs on the rear. Air brake systems use drums because of the special requirements for an air system. Air drum brakes are a lot simpler than an air disc system. Disc brakes are not used on semi trucks because of the expense of putting two seperate brake systems on each truck and trailer,
That's not entirely accurate, disc brakes are in use in semi-trucks, but it never caught on. Only a very small percentage of trucks, trailers, and con-gear use them. The cost isn't a factor, if there was a significant increase in safety with disc brakes DOT would require them. DOT has no problem in spending a trucker's money. You need to take a look at the air disc brakes, really isn't that complex a device. And you can mix truck/trailer/con-gear applications with no problems. My Freightliners are all drum brakes, but sometimes we get a trailer or dolly with discs.
Those light duty trucks you mention often have an air over hydraulic, but that's neither here nor there.
 
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