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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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brake drum installation

So, another question....
Replaced the brakes on my '65 F100 2WD. Had to take the drums to work and press the hubs out. Now it's re-install time and the drums are giving me a fit. Do I need to take the drums back in and press the hubs back or can I just pull it all together with the lug nuts? If it's not one thing, it's another, right?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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I just did the drums on my 65 f100 also. I had to press the new studs back into the new drums and old hubs. I am lucky enough to have a press at work so I did it there.
I wouldn't attempt pulling them in with the lugs you will never know when they are completely seated. The new studs were cheap I would also recomend a new set of them.

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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So they were all pressed together originally? Here i figured they were like rear drums and just "sitting" there. Guess it's back to work this weekend. Thankfully I have a key...
 
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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I have two '66's and neither one of them had drums that needed to be pressed on or off.......In the shop manual it does not say anything about pressing. You may want to check the hubs where it meets the center opening of the drum and make sure its big enough (could have the wrong drums), or it could be something simple as having some built up rust on the center section of the hub that may just need to be cleane up with some emory cloth. Hope that gives you some help.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Well Voodoo maybe they changed between 65 and 66 but everyone I know says you press the 65 on than off again. There was noway the new drums I just installed were going to just slip on over the new studs. They had to be pressed. Napa auto also stated that it was recomended that the studs be replaced when replacing the drums because of pressing them on and off. Maybe one of the old Ford parts men or Ford mechanics will jump in here and straighten us both out.

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Are we speaking of pressing the studs on and off or the drums themselves?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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The drums on my '54 even slide on and off with pressing.I just dont see why you should have to press off the drums to service the brakes in any way.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Are you talking front or rear axle?
You have to press the studs into the hub and drum at the same time for thr front axle. To service the front brakes you need to remove them by removing the bearing nut and remove the hub drum assembly as a whole unit.

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Interesting because I didnt have to do that to neither one of my '66's.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Hmm. All other RWD autos I've worked on had one-piece hubs and drums on the front, which is why this is confusing me so. I guess reguardless of how it's supposed to be done, looks like i'm going to have to press that hub back into the drum...that or it's time to turn this old Ford into one big Molotov cocktail
 
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Well let us know how it turns out.

Was just thinking about some of the ones I haved pulled at the junk yard and they too were pressed to the hub, I had to remove the bearing nut to get them off.

They were to high priced for used to take a chance and I bought new ones.

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Ok I have some new news on the drums this week.

After running my 65 up and down the freeway for a couple of weeks I started feeling a vibration while braking. I took everything apart again and found that one of the hubs I could tap the studs out with a lite tap. So I went back to the local Napa dealer and found that they do make differant studs for 65 and 66. Their are big defferances. First the 65 are splined the intire way to the threads the 66 studs have the spline removed where the drum goes for easy removal. Second and most important the studs on a 65 measure .615 and the 66 measure .625 this makes a big differance when pressing.
I also found that somewhere along the time line a hub was replaced on my truck so I had one 65 hub and one 66. I went to my brothers house and pulled a hub off of an old 66 frame he has and found that the drum did indeed come off without pressing.
I talked to my friendly machine shop and they are going to dril and counter sink both the 66 hubs to match the 65. I am installing the 66 style lugs so that the drums come off easy without removing the hub and bearings.

Last of all now that I have dumped all this money into this drum overhaul I am gonna start gathering disc brake parts from a later model so that when these drums go out or I get tired of them I am doing the conversion. Because during all of this I also learned that I can not find anyone that sells those old hubs.

So anyone who reads this before dumping money into them old drums think conversion.

jd
 
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