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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Environmental Damage From Space??

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050804/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Hopefully that link works, if not, I'm sure this story will be prominent...

If you take the time to read this article, you'll note that it is not about environmental damage and the only things she really says about that is that she can see erosion, "deforestation", and that the atmosphere is thin and we don't have a lot of air. What a load of baloney, if you ask me. Erosion is a natural thing that happened long before we "took over" the environment. If you're an evolutionist... Grand Canyon ring a bell? On the deforestation issue... How does she know she's not looking at a part of the world in which trees just don't grow? I'm sure it's pretty hard to see machines and things from up there. And finally... the air issue. Nothing said about brown spots or a dirty tinge... she says we don't have much? Might I point out how freaking far away you are, astronaut??? Besides, air is not a solid and you might just miss it if you don't know what you're looking for...

I just had to let that out of my system... I can't stand environmental activists who use things like these to justify their plans for saving the earth, which don't always help anything and usually end up harming (or costing) more than they're helping.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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If you listened to those freaks, the Earth would be better off if we all stopped breathing...
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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That’s kind of funny coming from someone who a few days back consumed more energy than a small city uses in a year just to get into space to see the view…
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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GMAFB!!!
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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if people with 20/20 vision can't read a Highway sign from a half mile away, how thehell can she see trees or whatnot damaged (sorry, didn't care to read the whole article of BS) from 220 MILES up?? whatever. i'll continue to run my truck with no cat converter, use my chainsaw on the TREES...whatever, like pfogle said, maybe we should all stop breathing, beacause i'm sure carbon dioxide hurts the icecaps. and Sigma, yup, agree with ya there. think of all the pollutants she pumped into the air as well. certanly a lot more than i could ever put up in a lifetime combined with everyone else here on the forum... i respect my enviroment, but some people take it WAY past the extreme. aight, i'm off my box now.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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The problem with us stopping breathing is this, our bodies process the oxygen into carbon dioxide that the plants need to grow, and in turn they process the CO2 into oxygen which we need to survive.. Maybe these whackos have lost sight of the basics of life.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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"The atmosphere almost looks like an eggshell on an egg, it's so very thin," she said. "We know that we don't have much air, we need to protect what we have." - Eileen Collins

I refuse to believe that someone who qualifies to go into space could say something this DUMB!!! If we are "running out of air", where is it going? Is it like that giant robot maid sucking the air out of the planet at the end of "Spaceballs, the Movie"? Give me a break - this ultra environmentalist stuff is BS. Just as with water the same amount that was here 5 billion years ago is still here. It hasn't left the planet it just changes form! Symbiosis - we breathe IN oxygen and Exhale Carbon Dioxide, plants breathe IN carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen.

Are we really so arrogant as to think WE could kill a planet that has survived billions of years without us?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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If you listened to those freaks, the Earth would be better off if we all stopped breathing...
Well, maybe not ALL of us but there are certain people........
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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its funny, cause i'm a tree hugger. I go out there, throw my arms around the tree, and measure the trees right before they get cut down!!
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Hey, guys, guess what, found out something that is going to make the world a better place for everyone here!!!!


Trees grow back!!!!!!! isnt that amazing!!!! i never would have guessed that something so fragile as a 200 year old oak could ever send seed into the ground to preserve its legacy!!! and about deforestation, what are they paving all the land in the rainforest over and building shooping malls and quicki marts where the forests used to be? havnt these pshycos ever seen a baby tree grow up into a bigger tree, which in turn can be cut down to make essential items for everyday life?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Really!? They grow back? But the way I hear it they are a non renewable energy source
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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its funny, cause i'm a tree hugger. I go out there, throw my arms around the tree, and measure the trees right before they get cut down!!
i stopped hugging them. got too many ants on me (mesquite trees have ants) i just wave goodbye and have at it with my chainsaw. my gal got a cool action picture of me runnin and the tree fallin.... http://community.webshots.com/photo/...83934556lSYnUI
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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I can understand the deforestation thing, some countrys are really screwed cause they had no plan or forest service
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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The earth is in trouble, there is no denying it, and the severity of the crisis and the solutions we will be seeking are a mystery: that is all I will say...I agree with the astronaut
Being 21 years old is tough, you may still be highly impressionable, and sadly, another person you look up to may have instilled in you a hatred or caused you to show contempt for "tree huggers" AKA environmental activists.
I was prone to ranting and hating certain things when I was 21 also, I hated Jap cars, I hated non-union workers, I hated certain presidents, I hated this ,that, and the other thing. I always had an opinion, an opinion based on my small little reality, a reality created by me.
Hopefully, as you grow older and more mature, you will learn to take everything you see, hear and read with a "grain of salt".
The person saying that they can see environmental damage from space has a reason for that statement. She may be a republican, democrat, liberal, or conservative, we are unlikely to ever get to know what makes her tick, but she is speaking from a higher pulpit than you or any of us are ever likely to reach. Her standing in society has earned her the right to do a bit of preaching from the pulpit.
If you are wise, you will listen to her and try to discern how much of her statement is true. She is not the first astronaut view the earth and tell us about the horrible destruction going on.
If I was 21 and expected to be on Planet earth for another 60 years or so, I would look into helping the earth anyway I could. I hate to preach doom and gloom, but remember, it is your planet for the rest of your life, and if you like things the way they are now, it will take a lot of effort to keep the status quo.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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next year when i get that buck ive been eyeballing, i send pics to peta, heheh cleaning it affter shot, me a complete idiot
 
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