Notices
All Things Towing Conventional, 5th Wheel, Toy Hauler, Flatbed, Gooseneck, Electrical/Brakes/etc.

need advice on trailer

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:40 PM
  #1  
EgoMan's Avatar
EgoMan
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 0
From: Montana
need advice on trailer

I have a 92 f-150 5.8 and it will have plenty of power....e40d, and an 8.8" with 4.11 gears and a true track. It currently has a leveling lift with an ad-a-leaf. Im going to lift it with a 4 inch lift and add leaves to the rear springs and have them arched appropriately to increase load. Now to the point....I am looking for a camp trailer to tow and am trying to figureout where my limits are on weight and length? I know the axle is the weak link so can you help me find my limits on weight and length?
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 01:39 PM
  #2  
EgoMan's Avatar
EgoMan
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 0
From: Montana
anyone.......?
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 12:25 AM
  #3  
bocomojoe's Avatar
bocomojoe
Senior User
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 327
Likes: 1
From: Columbia, MO
EM, as you know there should be a sticker some where on the drivers door or door jam that will give you the GCVWR, and GVWR. (Gross combined vehicle weight rateing, and gross vehicle weight rateing.) Most RV dealers can give you an idea of how much you can tow. You might try you local ford dealer, they can find these ratings for you.

I think the weak link is the tranny, and cooling system and possibly your tires.

I spend about 3 to 4 months a year on the road and I can tell you that I see all kinds of stuff being towed by half ton p/u's. Some of it scarey. Be sure to get a good brake controller, and a good load distrubition hitch with spring bars to shift some wt to the front axle.

My 5-W is about 25ft and has a dry wt of about 4800 lbs. It could have been pulled with a 1/2 T.

There's an old rule of thumb that says you can tow about the same wt as your p/u. Some of the new trucks are towing more than this 50%/50% wt split.

I just found what you wanted. The GCVWR for a 5.8L F-150 with 4.10's and auto is 13,000 lb. and a max trailer weight of about 7,200 lbs. These numbers may be off 200lbs or so if you have 4wd, or extended cab.

Have fun camping
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 01:44 PM
  #4  
EgoMan's Avatar
EgoMan
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 0
From: Montana
Thanks man yea the door says its like 6320 or something but I have modified the suspension alittle and bumped the gears up. Im running 33x12.50's with extra heavy duty sidewalls so im not worried about the tire payload. I was just thing ing that my axle bearings will take a beating if i go to heavy.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 03:22 PM
  #5  
rebocardo's Avatar
rebocardo
Post Fiend
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 13,873
Likes: 3
From: Atlanta GA
A good general rule for 1/2 ton trucks is not to tow anything much longer then the vehicle and over 5K pounds. Arching a spring does not increase its load capacity.

imo, The weak link is not the rear axle or suspension. It is the cooling system for the engine, transmission, and power steering. I would upgrade those first.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 03:32 PM
  #6  
1979 Ford's Avatar
1979 Ford
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,495
Likes: 7
From: Not as far west as I want
A lift kit will raise the center of gravity, would make trailer towing interesting possibly even scary. 6000 LBS with a 10% Tongue weight, would be 600 LBS. That would be livable When looking at trailer weights detemine weather the weight is dry weight. (No water, propane, or supplies.)
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 03:59 PM
  #7  
ford390gashog's Avatar
ford390gashog
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 26,007
Likes: 575
From: Brentwood,CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by EgoMan
Thanks man yea the door says its like 6320 or something but I have modified the suspension alittle and bumped the gears up. Im running 33x12.50's with extra heavy duty sidewalls so im not worried about the tire payload. I was just thing ing that my axle bearings will take a beating if i go to heavy.
you can not load it past the 6,320 listed on the door you can not do anything to change the rating. the weak part is the frame, axle and brakes. with that tire size your effective gear ratio is about 3.73. if you plan on towing a lot i would not raise it.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 04:00 PM
  #8  
EgoMan's Avatar
EgoMan
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 0
From: Montana
yea...I dont want to arch them for capacity im going to add leaves for that to thicken the stack and raise it...arch if necessary to gain the 2.5 inch increase. 4 inch lift isnt very tall at all. Its got very think swaybars and I plan on putting all the stabilizers I can find for everything on it. I am building the motor and trans for increased power and towing ability. In the process I will be going with a larger core radiator, high flow pump, and a larger trans cooler...(I never use the radiator for cooling the trans). I was looking for something about 6K LB. just wasnt sure about the length and all that, we used to tow a 17ft camper behind a 85 toyota sr5 so I figure a good ford aught to ro better than that.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 7, 2005 | 08:22 PM
  #9  
EgoMan's Avatar
EgoMan
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 0
From: Montana
you can not load it past the 6,320 listed on the door you can not do anything to change the rating. the weak part is the frame, axle and brakes. with that tire size your effective gear ratio is about 3.73. if you plan on towing a lot i would not raise it.

what do you mean by raise it? I get what ya mean the axle is what I thought would be the problem, didnt think of the frame though....hell or even the brakes. lol I just want to tow maybe just over 6K. around 20-25 ft trailor.
 
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:58 PM
  #10  
ford390gashog's Avatar
ford390gashog
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 26,007
Likes: 575
From: Brentwood,CA
Club FTE Gold Member
i meant don't add the 4'' lift. whats the wheelbase? 6k is a good amount of weight for that f150 .
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:48 AM
  #11  
EgoMan's Avatar
EgoMan
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 0
From: Montana
im not sure about the wheel base, its a supercab short bed.
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:28 PM
  #12  
duc_grrl's Avatar
duc_grrl
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
From: Tillsonburg ON
Hey EM, my truck is exactly the same config: 92 F150 XCab SB 5.8L E4OD, only difference is a 3.73 rear. Mine has the full factory tow package, oil & tranny cooler as well as extra springs on the rear, stiffer coils on the front and a brake controller.

I'm just in the process of getting ready for a move back east -- 2,500 miles towing a 23' enclosed car hauler. According to the local pros here (and believe me, every second vehicle around here tows -- horses, RV's, boats -- that's the trouble with living in paradise) ... with an equalizing/sway controlled hitch I'll be legal in Canada up to 8k lbs and my trailer will be 7,500 loaded. I'm praying that I make it and I only plan on doing 400 miles a day.

Another question you have to ask yourself is how often you are going to tow that travel trailer. I've been towing horses for years with both my F350 and my F150 (since the divorce :-) and I consider my impending trip a real gamble with a half ton. Gotta agree with rebocardo -- no more than 5k for a half ton and if you're going to do anything, do the cooling upgrades and get electric brakes on the trailer. No matter what the legal limit, if you're going to tow that trailer regularly, get a Super Duty.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:05 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE