Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

MPG's??? I'm confused...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:18 AM
  #16  
jaybe's Avatar
jaybe
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
From: Bellefontaine, Ohio (Ohio
About 16-17000 miles now and getting 14-16 in town (heavy foot territory) and the best on the highway +- 2000rpm is 19.69 hand calculated.I guess you could say that I'm happy!


JB
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:23 AM
  #17  
IB Tim's Avatar
IB Tim
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 161,999
Likes: 75
From: 3rd Rock
Club FTE Gold Member
It seems to me the more miliage you get the better they get!
I hope that holds true for all of us!
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:38 PM
  #18  
Beachbumcook's Avatar
Beachbumcook
Got Diesel?
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,345
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by jaybe
About 16-17000 miles now and getting 14-16 in town (heavy foot territory) and the best on the highway +- 2000rpm is 19.69 hand calculated.I guess you could say that I'm happy!

JB
Your highway mileage is great!!!

I get 16 in the city and 18 on the highway.

I filled up when a local station had premium diesel at the same price as others regular diesel and saw a 1 - 2 mile jump when using premium diesel.

Keep the oil changed frequently and keep your fuel filters changed and you are good to go... Try some fuel additives to keep your system free of water, keep everything lubricated (pump and injectors)... and sounds like you are well on your way...

Maybe your truck is using VIAGRA... helps keep the mileage up!!!!

Thanks,

Jeff
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:51 PM
  #19  
99FordGuy's Avatar
99FordGuy
Mountain Pass
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 226
Likes: 6
I'm happy with the mileage I'm getting now (my last SD was a gasser it got 8 - 10). I guess I will have to wait a few years to know if it gets better after 20k because I only put about 10k per year on it. Oh well, I love this truck so much now I don't care if it gets better with age or not.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:14 PM
  #20  
TheDuke's Avatar
TheDuke
Tuned
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 340
Likes: 1
From: Texas
At my station Diesel is now cheaper than unleaded...Diesel is 2.17 and Unleaded is 2.21 .
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:16 PM
  #21  
99FordGuy's Avatar
99FordGuy
Mountain Pass
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 226
Likes: 6
I haven't seen that in a while. I still don't understand how it could cost more to make diesel than gas.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:23 PM
  #22  
mrxlh's Avatar
mrxlh
Postmaster
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,654
Likes: 0
From: Bossier City, LA
Originally Posted by 99FordGuy
I haven't seen that in a while. I still don't understand how it could cost more to make diesel than gas.
It doesn't we are paying for the transportation cost. As well as futures spectulation in heating oil which is basicly the same as diesel. Remember most 18 wheelers get the fuel from tank farms, where a refinery is not close by. Product pipelines carry all sorts of products in the same pipeline. From diesel to base stocks that our motor oil is made from. Now where the futures comes into play is that an 8000 mile strech of pipeline carring home heating oil, purges, then pigs, then starts transporting diesel, oops now a rare late cold snap causes another purge, pigging and re-transport of heating oil, and then back again. You guessed it if you think the consumer is the one that this cost is passed onto.

Ryan
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:27 PM
  #23  
kb1aah's Avatar
kb1aah
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Thumbs up

I have 26000 miles on my 04 now and with the SCMT in HP mode at 70Mph the Lie-o-meter says I am averaging about 21-22mpg even with the hills here in northern Mass. I would agree that between 20 and 30k your motor is pretty much "broke-in". My local diesel tech tells me that the Lie-o-meter is conservative. I can't say whether that's true or not as I haven't hand calculated my mileage on this truck. BTW, my truck now has 4" straight-pipe from the turbo to the y pipe under the bed which then opens up to a pair of 5" bull-horn
stacks. This alone picked up approx 2mpg.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:54 PM
  #24  
99FordGuy's Avatar
99FordGuy
Mountain Pass
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 226
Likes: 6
MRXLH,
What I don't understand is why doesn't this same problem effect gas prices in the same way and make it more than diesel like it used to be?
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:09 AM
  #25  
Dawgman's Avatar
Dawgman
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: Georgetown, TX
Originally Posted by mrxlh
It doesn't we are paying for the transportation cost. As well as futures spectulation in heating oil which is basicly the same as diesel. Remember most 18 wheelers get the fuel from tank farms, where a refinery is not close by. Product pipelines carry all sorts of products in the same pipeline. From diesel to base stocks that our motor oil is made from. Now where the futures comes into play is that an 8000 mile strech of pipeline carring home heating oil, purges, then pigs, then starts transporting diesel, oops now a rare late cold snap causes another purge, pigging and re-transport of heating oil, and then back again. You guessed it if you think the consumer is the one that this cost is passed onto.

Ryan
I had the opportunity to speak with an oil executive the other day, at my place of employement. I asked him what he thought the main reason was for such a price increase. What Ryan said is true, but we must realize what the EPA has done also. The sulphur content in todays diesel is much lower now, than it was years ago. It costs more to refine it now, to meet the EPA standards.............thus it cost oil companies more, and us more.....so he told me.

I'm still confused about my highway mileage. Maybe too little sulphur in my fuel?? I just took it in for it's first oil change, so I will check to see if there is any improvement. I would think I should get at least 17 mpg's on the highway.
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:02 AM
  #26  
bigbuck5656's Avatar
bigbuck5656
New User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Well, I've been driving my brand spanking new 06 350 DRW for a week now. Did my first fill up yesterday and hand calculated 14.8 mpg. This morning coming to work the computer showed 17.0 mpg. This was in a mixture of stop and go plus a little highway covering 34 miles.

I'm excited to think that this truck may get as good or better mpg than the 99 350 SRW that I traded in.

Ed
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:09 AM
  #27  
KurtNJr's Avatar
KurtNJr
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
What I hear from my dealer, what I read on FTE and what I have experienced is that the 05s ON AVERAGE don't get as good mileage as the 03s and 04s. My guess is there are some tuning changes that really helped some problems but hurt mileage a little. Best I can do on the 05 is 15.5 highway @ 2000 rpm. The 04 would do 18-19 under same conditions - all hand calculated.
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:20 AM
  #28  
PHAT_51_FORD's Avatar
PHAT_51_FORD
New User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: South of Calgary Alberta
I don't understand what the complaints about feul costs are, up here in oil rich Alberta Canada, we are paying a rediculous 89.9 cents per litre. At aprox 4 litres per gallon that would make the price we pay at about $3.60 per gallon. I only wish we paid so little, especially when Alberta produces such a high volume of oil & gas revenue. I own a 03 F350 drw 4x4, and I love the milage that it gets, aprox 19.3 miles to the gallon. When I feul up my 51 ford, it will only run on premium, and that price is 99.9 per litre. That is almost $4.00 per gallon. Makes me cry!!!
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:19 PM
  #29  
mrxlh's Avatar
mrxlh
Postmaster
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,654
Likes: 0
From: Bossier City, LA
Originally Posted by 99FordGuy
MRXLH,
What I don't understand is why doesn't this same problem effect gas prices in the same way and make it more than diesel like it used to be?
Its more of an east west thing than north south. A majority of pipelines spur out from refinery row in Houston, From Baton Rouge, and From Lake Charles. Most pipeline are not quite as point to point. Many refineries that do produce diesel, may not refine near as much as say one down the road. East coasters get most of thier products from the Colonial pipeline, as they are relativly refinery poor compaired to their usage. They have not had a very fortunate luck streak here lately. They were fined heavily in the 90's for being out of compliance. Guess who gets the costs passed on to them. Colonial may not even ship gasoline, they may not have elected to accept any orders placed during open season, due to heating oil, and diesel bringing them a much more lucritave profit. The pipeline industry is run much like the stock market, refiners and customers bid to ship via their pipeline, the pipeline companies in turn hold them to taker pay agrements to ensure that they don't get burned by the supplier, or the end item user. IE if a customer orders 1,000,000 gallons of diesel and changes his mind say if futures are down, he still has to pay the transportation fee, reguardless if he actually receives all of his purchase. Producers who negotiate with the pipeline companies for a better rate, have to produce what they purchase for throughput of the pipeline, to keep competative rates of capacity. ( If you promised to ship 50,000 bbls of crude a day, and then could not deliver said quanity, the pipeline company loses revenue due to not taking the balance form say another producer. Also what someone else has said here is true, the Epa has their hands in this matter as well. Tightening up regulations to an unattainable goal, after letting them run rampant for years. The last new refinery built in the continental U.S. was in Belle Chasse, La in 1976 by Gulf Oil Corp. In turn the refineries have been trying to play catch up just to stay in compliance, let alone having the money to permit and build a state of the art refinery that nobody wants in their back yard. It has been speculated that the oil companies themselves are responsible for lobbying the EPA for tougher regulations, just to increase the price of oil, to that of the rest of the world market. If you think about it, it does make sense, lets make it so hard for a new refinery to get built, that no one will be able to feasably build a new refinery and overload the market and drive the cost down, and compete with the majors. All of the independants marketing and refining divisions have been gobbled up in the last 10 years.

Sorry for the long post, but it is hard to explain the reasons why without getting into specific details. Heck I never new how complicated this industry was til I got into it 5 years ago.

Ryan
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 11:17 PM
  #30  
mlb4966's Avatar
mlb4966
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,532
Likes: 3
From: Valdez, Alaska
Club FTE Silver Member

Heck mrxlh we have a 5 year old refinery in out back yard and diesel is still $2.80 a gallon. Though we would get a break on the prices since it was so close but nope. Although it is a small refinery by most standards.

As for MPG. 04 with 25,000 getting 16-16.5 on the highway average. Best was 21 (Drove conservative). Towed 7K of concrete two days ago at 70 for 310 miles and got 12.5. Not to bad considering 1/2 of that was up and over the mountains.

Driving the wifes subaru more with current prices. 35 mpg. Man thats nice.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:47 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE