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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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difference in 302 heads?

hello, ive got an 87 f-150 4x4 with an efi 5.0l which im fixin to swap with an 80 302 i got out of an f-150....i already have factory replacement shorty headman headers on the 87, will they fit on the 80 motor, or are the heads different? thanks
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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No, they should bolt right up with no problem.

You do know that you can't interchange the flexplates between those two engines as the '80 has a 28oz imbalance and the '87 is 50oz? Hopefully they are set up for the same type of tranny so you don't have to go scrounging for a pre-'81 28oz flexplate. -TD
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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thanks tiger dan...no i did not know that, the 80 had a c-6 behind it, and the 87s got an aod....you are talking about the flywheel right? thanks
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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The c6 and AOD took a different flywheel.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Well, for an automatic it's called a flexplate, but yeah, the flywheel-thingie that the torque converter bolts to. So, you'll have to see if the converter for the AOD will bolt up to your '80 C6 flexplate. I would have thought it would, but ronclark above says different. I used to have a Ranchero with a 351C in it, I put an AOD behind it using the same flexplate...your results may vary! I just wanted you to be aware of the imbalance difference between the years you're working with. It sucks to get it all together and have a nasty vibration that can kill your engine. -TD
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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The AOD flexplate for a 302 is 164 teeth and the c6 flexplate will more than likely be 157 teeth which means the starter from the c6 will not work on the AOD. Even on a 351w where the flywheels are 164 teeth the c6 takes a different part number than the AOD. The AOD and c4 uses the same part number on 351w. I just got through doing research on them with the help of Kemical.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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So, the first thing he needs to do is verify that his '80 302 flexplate is actually 157 teeth. If so, then he needs to find a 164-tooth, 28oz imbalance flexplate, possibly from a 351W since they stayed with the 28oz imbalance throughout production...Bob, sounds like ya gotta go count some teeth! -TD
 
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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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thanks guys....you saved me from a possibly fatal error....thats why i come here to FTE!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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So, the first thing he needs to do is verify that his '80 302 flexplate is actually 157 teeth. If so, then he needs to find a 164-tooth, 28oz imbalance flexplate, possibly from a 351W since they stayed with the 28oz imbalance throughout production...Bob, sounds like ya gotta go count some teeth! -TD
Keep in mind that the 351 AOD-c4 flexplate is different from the c6 flexplate even though both are 164 tooth
 

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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so if my flexplate on the motor now is 164 tooth, it still wont work with the aod starter? since it origionally had a c-6 behind it?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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No the offset is different and will not allow the converter to engage into the front pump correctly.
 
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