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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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My First Diesel...

well i am in the market to get a new or used truck... i really want to get a PSD.. i am looking for about a 99'-02' standard cab longbed, 4x4 auto.. XLT or FX4, and i am not finding much.. :-( i m not giving up though.. lol

anyhow what are some "hidden" maintaince cost related to the PSD, something other than oil changes that i wouldnt be used to with a gasser... and should i be leary looking at these 150K+ mile trucks?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Tranny rebilds, CPS Sensors, and maybe glowplugs and relays......

As to the leary part.....NO WAY!!!!
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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what are some mileage marks for these differant things?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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I had a CPS go bad at about 85,000, glow plug relay at around 90,000, and have had no other problems out of my '02. I have heard glow plugs typically last about 100k.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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i am not really sure if i really like this truck or not yet, ill have to go look at it in person.. but the price seems good.. http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/lis...F350&cpo=false

anyhow what are some things to look and listen for when driving it when shopping for a used PSD?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Make sure the tranny shifts well if it's an auto. There really isn't much to listen for unless you are familiar with the 7.3's. You can get gobs of miles out of these trucks if they were taken care of. If there is the stock air filter in it, check downstream of the filter for dust. Dust is bad because that air goes through the motor. I understand there is more in TX than just about anywhere, but it might be harder to find 4x4 there. If it was used for towing or you plan to do a lot of towing, start saving for a BTS tranny.

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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thanks for the good advice so far... my plans are to tow.. but nothing crazy and i am sure that the PSD wont evan break a sweat.. the most i can see me towing as of now would be a Farmall M tractor (3000lbs) and a trailer to haul it (3000lbs?)

so relly i could almost get by with a 5.4 v8 but i have alwas liked diesels with the Awsome torque, the sound, smell, the effienciy(sp?) all of it... lol
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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You'll be glad you went diesel over gas, if nothing else, for the mileage alone.

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yeah if i could just only find a strd cab auto 4x4 in the dark grey XLT i would be soo happy... :-) seems like there arnt very many standard cabs around... and if there is there are the base model and white blah
 
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i bet you could find an obs with under 150k and it will be cheaper and still has a stroke in it!!!!
 
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what is obs?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Smo key
i am not really sure if i really like this truck or not yet, ill have to go look at it in person.. but the price seems good.. http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=43 119&make=Ford&model=F350&cpo=false

anyhow what are some things to look and listen for when driving it when shopping for a used PSD?

Smo key,
I have some things I picked up from Steve Baz web site: It is a good check list. You can have a diesel repair shop check all or most of this if you don't want to or don't know quite how to...

Turbo: You might take the air tube off the back of the air filter and look inside of it. If there is dirt build up, that is a very bad sign, so are the turbo fins looking sand blasted or bent. A little oily film is normal since the valve cover breather exits inside the tube.
Airbox: Check the two bolts holding down the airbox lid. If they are plastic with a square recess, it is a recalled part. The recall is expired, but without the updated lid the risk of dirt infiltration is greater, the lid was updated with more supports and the updated bolts are metal with a straight slot. If it is the old style, you spend around $80 to update it.
Tranny: If you buy a truck with an auto tranny, finding out if it's been maintained is essential, as the E4OD is an expensive transmission. Also, (if auto) seeing if the truck has an auxiliary transmission cooler would be worthwhile. For sticks, listen for clunking when shutting off or small vibration while operating. It could be an indication of a dual mass flywheel going out. Many have replaced them with single mass units.
Rear Gear Ratio: 4:10 will pull better, get slightly lower mpg’s and run a higher RPM compared to 3:55.
Coolant: Ask the previous owner about the coolant - have they been adding FW16 or DCA4 to keep a proper SCA level? It is very important for stopping cavitation. You can get test strips to check the SCA level from NAPA, International, or Ford. I would test the current condition while looking over the truck, the SCA level should be between 1.5 and 3.0. Also, see if it has a block heater (it was an option on 97's).
Front end: Check the front end for wear, or have an alignment shop check out the ball joints and steering linkage (tie rod ends). If they are shot, it is spendy (all four tie rods are around $400 just for parts, ball joint labor is also very spendy)
Oil: The questions to ask are how often the oil was changed (at least every 5,000) and what kind of oil they used (diesel rated)? An oil analysis could tell you if there might be an engine problem or not.
Aftermarket stuff: Seeing if the truck has got an aftermarket downpipe would be nice, a chip, or gauges (pyrometer, trans temp, etc.). Ask about any added items and who installed them.
Glow Plugs/Relay: Find out if the glow plugs are in good working condition as well as the relay. Ask if either has been changed and when. You can check the glow plug resistance through the valve cover connector if needed (http://forums.ford-diesel.com/cgi-bi...&f=21&t=005210), and the relay should have power to both large terminals on top when the key is turned on, and one of the terminals should go out before ~2 minutes.
Injector o-rings: The injector O-rings have been known to be a problem. The new o-ring sets have a pink middle seal. If the truck has an o-ring problem, one of the signs can be a discoloration of the fuel in the filter bowl. There is a drain on the passenger side front of the filter bowl for draining water (the filter is also the water separator) and you can catch some of the drained fuel in a jar – it should be dingy yellow and not blue or dark.
Leaks and Drips: You can check the valley between the heads of the V8 for moisture and/or fluid. It should be dry not wet. Most leaks will run through this valley and down the back of the motor dripping off by the tranny/engine coupling.
VIN number: If you take the VIN to any dealer, they can tell you when it was built, when it went into service, and some of the work that might have been done on it. You can also run prospective VIN's through Carfax.com to see the title history.

Get the PSD.....
 
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