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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Rust Problem!

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I wanted to know if anyone can help me? I have an 2001 F150 extended cab. I have now relized that under all 4 doors it is bubbling with rust. Are there any type of recalls or warranty that can resolve this issue? And does anyone else have this problem?

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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because these trucks are not rust proffed from the factory they will rust. There is no warrenty or recall for this as far as I have heard. The easies is to haveit professonaly fixed or fix it your self and undercoat it. My 2000 has the same probem must of the rust is coming from chips on the bottom of the door.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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I have an 03 supercrew and I wood suggest to anyone to pull off those rubber strips at the bottom of the door because water, dirt, and salt get stuck in there, which then equals rust. I learned the hard way, the dealer told me there is a 5 year rust through warranty, they told me mine was surface rust. I wonder how surface rust bubbled the paint? Oh well I spent $3 on a grinding pad for my drill and $35 on a quart of POR 15 and so far so good. After grinding off the loose rust and painting, I have a black truck so it blended right in also I left those rubber pieces off.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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good point those rubber strips are supose to keep the water and muck out sounds like it allows it to go in then holds it. HMMMMMM!
I'll follow that advice

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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They do look like they are suppose to keep water out, but on the supercrews there is like 2 more rubber strips above the bottom ones I pulled off, 6-8 months no water getting in the truck so far.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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I took my 00 to the dealer for the same problem...tailgate lower hem was rusting too. He said they will fix it under tsb 04-18-11 but my truck had 85 on it, so it was a no go.
The tsb states it is only good for 3 yrs 36k ("New vehicle limited warranty":

TSB 04-18-11 BODY-CORROSION AT BOTTOM OF DOOR OR TAILGATE HEM FLANGE - REPAIR PROCEDURE

Publication Date: September 1, 2004

FORD: 1997-2001 Taurus
2000-2001 Focus
1997-2001 Expedition, F-250 LD, Windstar, F-Series
LINCOLN: 1998-2001 Navigator
MERCURY: 1997-2001 Sable


This article supersedes TSB 01-09-8 to update the vehicle line and model year coverage and service procedure.

ISSUE:
Some vehicles may exhibit corrosion at the hem flange at bottom of any door/tailgate where the outer panel is folded over the inner panel.

ACTION:
Repair corrosion at the hem flange using special hem flange tools. Refer to the following Service Procedure.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

NOTE: READ THIS REPAIR PROCEDURE COMPLETELY BEFORE PERFORMING ANY SERVICE ACTIONS.



NOTE: THE USE OF FORD OR MOTORCRAFT BRAND PRODUCTS ARE MANDATORY ON ALL REPAIR CLAIMS PAID BY FORD UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED IN EMISSIONS, SAFETY RECALLS, OWNER NOTIFICATION PROGRAMS, TSB'S OR OTHER COMPANY PUBLICATIONS. THE COST OF NON-FORD/MOTORCRAFT PRODUCTS USED FOR A WARRANTY, ESP/ESC OR AWA REPAIR WITHOUT JUSTIFYING THEIR USE (SUCH AS EMERGENCY REPAIR) IS NOT REIMBURSABLE. EXAMPLES OF FORD PRODUCTS ARE ADHESIVES, SEALERS, SOLVENTS, CLEANERS, WASHES, AND OTHER SPECIAL PRODUCTS LISTED IN THE FORD CAR CARE PRODUCTS MANUAL.



NOTE: TECHNICIANS SHOULD WEAR THE APPROPRIATE EYE, HAND AND HEARING PROTECTION WHILE PERFORMING THESE REPAIR PROCEDURES. ADHESIVES AND SEALERS USED IN THESE PROCEDURES SHOULD BE USED IN A WELL-VENTILATED AREA.



Inspect the inside of the door/tailgate at the lower edge only for corrosion/bubbling.
Follow the Workshop Manual procedure for the removal of the interior door panel or tailgate and tailgate moldings.
Use shop air to blow out the drain holes in the bottom of the door/tailgate and apply 25 mm (1") tape to the outer skin at the bottom to prevent scuffing.
Use a hammer and screwdriver to slightly lift the corner of the hem flange.
Insert TOOL 501-078/1(RT) or TOOL 501-078/2(LT) in an air impact gun (620 kPa (90 psi) air pressure is required for consistent tool operation). Using the tool lift the hem flange continuing across the bottom of the door/tailgate and stop just before the end.
Use an angle grinder or wire brush to remove all corrosion on the bottom of the hem flange and inner door/tailgate panel. Follow by blowing off with compressed air.
Using appropriate hand protection, brush on Corrosion Converter (Sem# 69508) on the corroded area. Use light coat and let flash dry 2-5 minutes. Follow by using a damp cloth to wipe off corrosion residue.
Sand with a DA sander using 360 grit sand paper the lower areas of the door/tailgate where paint was disturbed, keeping the repair area small. Feather edge for a paint blend as necessary. Blow off the panel with clean compressed air. Clean the panels with wax and remover.
Mix and brush on Ford approved epoxy or self-etching primer to all bare hem flange areas on the bottom of the door/tailgate. Bake at 140° F (60° C) panel temperature per manufacturers label instructions.
Install the Motorcraft TA-1 adhesive cartridge into the application gun 501-040. Squeeze out some material to purge the cartridge. Install the tip on the cartridge and squeeze out some material to make sure of even mixing of the adhesive components.
Apply the adhesive between the hem flange and bottom of the inner door/tailgate panel. Work time is 45 minutes at 70° F (21° C). Adhesive cure time is 8 hours.
Use TOOL 501-080 to re-hem (close down) the hem flange. Start in a corner, and insert the center of the tool over the area to close down and hit with a hammer.
Install the Motorcraft TA-2 urethane cartridge into the application gun 501-040. Squeeze out some material to purge the cartridge. Install the tip on the cartridge and squeeze out some material to make sure of even mixing of the adhesive components.
Apply Motorcraft TA-2 urethane seam sealer around the door/tailgate hem flange to give a finished appearance.
Remove any residual sealer with adhesive remover. Sealer is paintable in 10 minutes and within 24 hours.
Mask the door/tailgate for color application.
Mix and apply Ford approved basecoat color to the inside of the door/tailgate area and allow material to flash off.
Mix and apply Ford approved clearcoat to inside of the door/tailgate and bake at 140° F (60° C) panel temperature per following manufacturers recommended baking time.
Spray Dominion Sure Seal Amber anti corrosion coating (24011) to the inside of the door/tailgate at the hem location. Do not plug drain holes.
Demask the vehicle and, reinstall the inner door panel or tailgate moldings.
SPECIAL TOOLS

501-078/1 RH Hem Opening Tool (Tools are direct ship from O.T.C.)
501-078/2 LH Hem Opening Tool
501-080 Hem Closing Tool
501-040 Adhesive Gun (Adhesive Gun not included in kits. This is a commonly used commercially available gun. Must be ordered separately from Rotunda.)

PART NUMBER PART NAME
TA-1 Motorcraft Metal Bonding Adhesive
TA-2 Motorcraft Urethane Seam Sealer
Obtain Locally Corrosion Converter (Sem #69508)
Obtain Locally 360 Grit Sand Paper
Obtain Locally Ford Approved Epoxy Or Self-Etching Primer
Obtain Locally Dominion Sure Seal Amber Anti Corrosion Sealer 24011


WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Thank You everyone for your answers. I called the Ford Motor Company today.They said I was still covered under warranty for 5 years until Dec. 2005. They said if it is corision from inside out of metal it will be covered. I was getting new bumper put on today & body shop discoverd very bad rusting around radiator frame. They help me get pictures of all rust. And the body shop told me it should not rust like this & it was rusting from inside out. So I am going to Ford dealership Friday to see what they say.

Thank You All,
Brian
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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should save lots of money, gotta love warranties

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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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I have been a proud owner of Ford trucks for 30 years, but my 2001 Ford truck might be the last for me. The bottom of my truck, where the body is bolted to the frame, is completely rusting out. I went to the Ford dealership, and they told me that there is nothing they can do about it because its not coverd in the warranty. Apparently the rust has to be so bad that it eats holes in the metal. Does anyone have any suggestions about what I can do to get this problem solved?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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POR 15, I think that is what it is called you paint it on and them it turns black and drys and is ready for painting very good rust inhibitor.

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FordFred
Apparently the rust has to be so bad that it eats holes in the metal. Does anyone have any suggestions about what I can do to get this problem solved?
I was told by the dealer that it does indeed have to rust through completely to be covered. There should be ZERO RUST at 22k miles and only 3 frickin years old.

So I'll have to fix it myself.

No wonder ford and gm are junk bond status hm?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Mine was not rust proofed at all and I had to fix alot of rust when I bought my used 2000 Ford F150. guess it comes with the trucks. Especially where alot of the rocks hit when kicked up by the tires and all seams.

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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Rocks dont hit the inside of the door which is where all my rust is.
 
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