'74 p/u starter help
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'74 p/u starter help
i am a new ford owner to a very old farm truck. i am trying to put a new starter on the truck & i am not doing something right. when i put the new starter on & tried to start the truck the starter stayed ingaged & would not "kick" back out. i quickly disconnected the batt. cable again. now it won't even try to turn on!!! i am wondering if there is someone out there that could help me with the correct wiring sequence. there is a "solinoid" bolted to the fender & i would like to know how you correctly wire to it. i really need to get this ol ford running so i can get some chores on the "honey do" list done. thanks for you guys input & time...
the engine is a 390 w a c-4 tranny..
thanks!!!
fordfan-74
the engine is a 390 w a c-4 tranny..
thanks!!!
fordfan-74
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Try changing the solonoid first, it might be stuck/fried.Then if it it repeats the problem bring the starter back and get another. 
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Welcome to the site fordfan-74. I replace my starter on my 77 F-100 302 w/ C4, no problem, what ever wires, you disconected just reconnect them back. That should be it, but when my starter went, I took it off, and peices were falling out, make sure to clean out any peices that might of fallen in where the starter bolt on.
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Originally Posted by fordfan-74
i am a new ford owner to a very old farm truck. i am trying to put a new starter on the truck & i am not doing something right. when i put the new starter on & tried to start the truck the starter stayed ingaged & would not "kick" back out. i quickly disconnected the batt. cable again. now it won't even try to turn on!!! i am wondering if there is someone out there that could help me with the correct wiring sequence. there is a "solinoid" bolted to the fender & i would like to know how you correctly wire to it. i really need to get this ol ford running so i can get some chores on the "honey do" list done. thanks for you guys input & time...
the engine is a 390 w a c-4 tranny..
thanks!!!
fordfan-74
the engine is a 390 w a c-4 tranny..
thanks!!!
fordfan-74
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NEW starter right? Are you sure you got the correct starter for that truck and engine? Check the numbers and verify that you got the right part. If it is the wrong starter, it may not be meshing into the flywheel correctly. Just a thought.
RU sure that is a C-4? I thought pickups all had C-6 transmissions. I could be wrong but that is what I thought.
RU sure that is a C-4? I thought pickups all had C-6 transmissions. I could be wrong but that is what I thought.
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I have a C4 in my 77 F-100. If you aren't sure, the tranny oil pan on a C4 is a square, and a C6 is more of a L shape.
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Remove the starter run it a few times on the bench with bosster cables.
List where you have each wire to the Solenoid running to
it
Descripbe the colour of wires to where
List where you have each wire to the Solenoid running to
it
Descripbe the colour of wires to where
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Mill1on, I just had a starter do just that and it turned out to be a bendix that was thrown to the engage position and the return spring was bad, so it didn't return in. This occured after experiencing symptoms you described above (starter sticking on). It seemed to have been jammed out and broken in that way. I think that it was the wrong starter that was installed. (yes it is true, I let someone else work on my truck) Obviously the starter was broken so I replaced it. I found that the 360 starter didn't have a collar to stop the bendix at the flywheel so it may have engaged too deeply, catching on the back side of the flywheel. The correct starter for my 460 engine swap (351M/400) had the collar.
I am unsure if the flywheel teeth are the same count between the two flywheels so I don't know if that was a factor. However, incorrect tooth line up with starter vs. flywheel would account for failure such as this as well as it would jam up. Synopsis: possibly wrong starter?
What duya think?
I am unsure if the flywheel teeth are the same count between the two flywheels so I don't know if that was a factor. However, incorrect tooth line up with starter vs. flywheel would account for failure such as this as well as it would jam up. Synopsis: possibly wrong starter?
What duya think?
Last edited by olfordsnstone; Jul 13, 2005 at 02:54 PM.