SuperCrew - Better than A Plan possible?
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SuperCrew - Better than A Plan possible?
I am considering the purchase of a 2005 F-150 Supercrew XLT (5.45L, tow package, manual rear slider, power pedals, keyless entry, two tone paint). Looking at local dealer websites I have found one that pretty much fits the bill with the exception of the premium mirror package. MSRP is listed as $35,500 and the Employee Plan Price is $29,500. Is this the true Employee Price or is it based on national or regional average invoice prices paid for this truck? If I go to the dealership, might the price be lower based on other factors? Either way, is anyone getting dealers to go even slightly lower than the Employee Plan Pricing (not including the $2500 rebate and $500 Home Depot cash option)? (Seattle area)
Thank you.
Thank you.
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This is proof that no matter how good the deal is, there's always somebody trying to make it better! 
There is only one employee price on every vehicle, anywhere in the US- and it's listed as the A-Plan on the invoice. Northwest SuperCrew inventories are almost as thin as PSD inventory, so grab what you can while you can.
There is only one employee price on every vehicle, anywhere in the US- and it's listed as the A-Plan on the invoice. Northwest SuperCrew inventories are almost as thin as PSD inventory, so grab what you can while you can.
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polarbear, thanks for the reply. I understand why you THINK that my question was intended to try to take advantage of the good deal being offered. The question was actually raised by someone else that I know when I told them what the price was. I probably should have specified that in my original post and that is why I am not bothered by the fact that you were clearly annoyed by the question in the first place. I have talked to a co-worker who is a former Ford salesman and he was claiming that the A plan was actually 10% off of invoice which works out to about 35% off MSRP (markup of 25% and A plan being 10% below invoice). The price of the SC I'm considering is about 26-27% off MSRP after rebates and I don't see how it could get much better than that.
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polarbear, thanks for the reply. I understand why you THINK that my question was intended to try to take advantage of the good deal being offered. The question was actually raised by someone else that I know when I told them what the price was. I probably should have specified that in my original post and that is why I am not bothered by the fact that you were clearly annoyed by the question in the first place. I have talked to a co-worker who is a former Ford salesman and he was claiming that the A plan was actually 10% off of invoice which works out to about 35% off MSRP (markup of 25% and A plan being 10% below invoice). The price of the SC I'm considering is about 26-27% off MSRP after rebates and I don't see how it could get much better than that.
Sorry- I didn't mean to sound annoyed-
this employee promotion is starting to get to us, can you tell? A-Plan is exactly 5% below factory invoice price- anywhere in the US. Just be sure to see the invoice of whatever you're buying.
Sorry- I didn't mean to sound annoyed-
this employee promotion is starting to get to us, can you tell? A-Plan is exactly 5% below factory invoice price- anywhere in the US. Just be sure to see the invoice of whatever you're buying.
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Not a problem. I'm sure there are lots of reasons why this would "get" to someone in the business. If I were selling Ford or GM vehicles I would be concerned that this is really going to have a negative long term effect on sales because now that everyone knows basically what the A plan (and true invoice not the invoice salesmen would previously show you that said right on the bottom "this invoice may not be for the exact vehicle...") is for any vehicle, the consumer is much more knowledgeable about cost vs. markup and more likely to hold out for a lower price in the future. Again, thanks for your reply. Have a good one.
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GM's been trying to get us (the dealer group) to the "one-price" table for years. The problem is they're also controlling the profit structure- gross a little less than 3% before any expenses get taken out. I wonder if GM would do business on that basis? 
Yea, yea- I know, North american operations haven't been profitable for decades. But we didn't try to buy Fiat either, or underfund our pension plan, or sign the last UAW contract... 
Ford's deal is actually quite a bit worse- no volume bonuses like GM structured into their deal. I realize, from a consumer's standpoint, this is all moot- until their favorite dealership shuts their doors or hangs a Toyota sign out front.
Yea, yea- I know, North american operations haven't been profitable for decades. But we didn't try to buy Fiat either, or underfund our pension plan, or sign the last UAW contract... Ford's deal is actually quite a bit worse- no volume bonuses like GM structured into their deal. I realize, from a consumer's standpoint, this is all moot- until their favorite dealership shuts their doors or hangs a Toyota sign out front.
