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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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I just purchased a 67 F100,6 cyl. 3 speed on column.It runs but needs rebuild or replacing.The truck drives and stops great.The engine is leaning a bit toward the passengers side? Think it may be mounts?they look Okay,There is a lot of vibration when accelerating.
Is there a bolt in engine that would fit the trans that might be a better engine?The paint is good and I want a dependable driver not wanting perfection.Aynone who has any ideas please help.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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its probably a 240 inline 6. you could go to a 300 6 and will gain torque but still have some economy or you could go to a v8. 302's go in with little trouble and there's the fe series which were the v8's that were offered in these from the factory. all can be installed without custom parts. just a matter of what you want for the truck. the six cylinder engines are great engines and you wouldnt have much work swappiing in the 300. there's even alot of after market goodies for these engines if you wanted to hop it up a bit.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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Could be a 240 but the 300 is more common, if want to find out which it is, pull out one of the spark plugs, get a long piece of thick wire (coat hanger...) stick the wire in the spark plug hole, then rotate the engine with a wrench or by spinning the cooling fan until the piston reches the bottom of the stroke, measure how much wire is in the cylinder. A 300 has a 4" stroke, the 240 has a 3.18" stroke, your measurement will be a little longer due to the hight of the head. the engine leaning and the vibration sounds like it may be a bad motor mount. the 300 is a great powerplant, it beats everyyhing else in econnomy, and rivals the 351 in power.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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I will try and find out if it is 240 or 300,it is a 240 according to the last owner.Will a 300 bolt right in,same mounts?Does it have to be a older 300?
Can a EFI 300 be put in?
Thanks for your help
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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I have a 69 F100 with a 302 and like an 8 the most. The very minor dif in economy doesn`t begin make up for not having a V8 and the 302 can be modified way beyond what any six if so desired. Tons of after market parts (new or used) are out there for the 302 engines as they are very plentyful and in demand. A fuelie 302 would be totaly awesome but the carburated 302 is good enough for me with less hassle. I am still scared of wiring and computers.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Could be a 240 but the 300 is more common, if want to find out which it is, pull out one of the spark plugs, get a long piece of thick wire (coat hanger...) stick the wire in the spark plug hole, then rotate the engine with a wrench or by spinning the cooling fan until the piston reches the bottom of the stroke, measure how much wire is in the cylinder. A 300 has a 4" stroke, the 240 has a 3.18" stroke, your measurement will be a little longer due to the hight of the head. the engine leaning and the vibration sounds like it may be a bad motor mount. the 300 is a great powerplant, it beats everyyhing else in econnomy, and rivals the 351 in power.

Be sure you unhook the coil wire first.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Ga
I will try and find out if it is 240 or 300,it is a 240 according to the last owner.Will a 300 bolt right in,same mounts?Does it have to be a older 300?
Can a EFI 300 be put in?
Thanks for your help
Steve, The 240 & 300 are the same block with a different internal stroke rotating system. Starting in 65 when the 240 was introduced, it was heavily used and then migrated to the 300 replacing it all together.

You can use EFI, but you must understand the EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) has to be run by a computer. Moving a complete system to your truck can be done, but is more involved than just installing the engine.

hope this helps a little

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Thanks for your input.I hope I end up with a decent highway driver.I met a guy today who is doing a highperformance restore on a 66 ford.He has a 352 with 4 speed(granny gear) that he took out of his truck.Guaranteed eng & trans.Havnt got price yet.Would this be a good set-up and what would be a fair price?The 352 has 2 barrel carb. unknown what it was originally in.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Ga
He has a 352 with 4 speed(granny gear) that he took out of his truck.Guaranteed eng & trans.Havnt got price yet.Would this be a good set-up and what would be a fair price?The 352 has 2 barrel carb. unknown what it was originally in.
I had few good 352`s but now prefer 390. It would be ok, not as nice as 390 but workable . As for a price that depends mostly on condition, not much demand for the 352 any more. Best to hear it run if you can before he pulls it out, start with a few hundred if it seems real good, other wise walk. A 390 would be my first chioce, second would be a 302/351 or a 300-6. The 4 speed is not too hot as it is mostly for heavy work, not that great for a light duty daily driver. You would soon get tired of shifting gears all the time, automatic is so much nicer in stop and go traffic.
 

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Hi Steve, I don't disagree with fomoco that the 390 is a better performing engine, the 352 is still heads & shoulders above the I6 in your truck as far as pulling & power goes. I have no use for the four speed and would want to put a C6 auto behind the engine. The FE uses a larger radiator than the 240 so you will need one of those as well. The engine uses the same perches as the 240 but a shorter throttle cable. The two barrel carb is fine for a truck.

Get all of the parts needed before you start the swap and shorten the time to make the swap.

I think I would not want to spend over $300.00 for the donor parts since you can't hear them run.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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300 CID engines are plentiful and I agree with jowilker it will be a whole lot cheaper than putting any other type of engine in. As far as a FE motor, $2.26 a gallon for gas, enough said. If you wanted to go the fuelie 302 route, I would find a local mustang forum and find someone who has pulled out a 302 out of a fox body 82-93 mustang these motors have roller cams and spin lots of RPM's but you would also have to get the computer and modify your gas tank to accept a return line (To much work in my opinion).
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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I am leaning toward rebuilding the 240,no issues about radiators etc. and it would stay orig. The trans. is a C code and the rear end is a 09.I want a good hwy driver not for my main ride (have a 94 150 XLT & 94.5 250 powerstroke for that).Will find out today if this engine has been rebuilt.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 04:28 AM
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If you do a rebiuld use a carnk and rods for a 300, this will give you a slightly higher compression ratio because of the smaller combustion chamber in the 240 head.
3.08ish would be good highway gears(i know thats a 8.8 ratio, but i cant remember exactly what it is for a nine inch) not real good for towing or hauling, 3.5s or 3.25s might be better with that three speed. I have the same truck with a 300 and 3.7s out back I can only hit about 70mph(don't want to push it any harder) i cruise at about 60.

A 300s hp peak is about 3500rpm third gear is 1:1 and stock tires a 235/75/R15
Which is about 91inch diameter if my math is correct.

So in without friction in a perfect world top speed -
3.7 gears= about 80mph,
3.5 gears= about 86mph,
3.25 gears= about 92mph
3.0 gears= about 100mph
how you build the engine will affect you choices. Good luck
 

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