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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Yep, it was in mine. M was for Modified Cleveland.
Modified Cleveland? I thought that Ford wasn't able to keep up enough production for the 351 Windsor, then started taking 400 blocks, and de-stroking them, then calling them the 400/351M. Maybe you could PM me and explain? Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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True a truck is a truck not a race car. but don't ask where to find a 70's and 80's chevy pickups. I used to remove boilers from apt buildings when we where done we would take to metal to the scrap yards. At the scrap yards waiting to be unloaded where 90% old chevy pickups 10% old fords never seen any dodges. And thats out of at least 50 trucks.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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The 351M/400 was made at the Michigan plant and It hs the same crank jouranls as the 429/460 and and same bell housing pattern. that why '77 and up it was easy to put a 429/460 in F-150 trucks
 

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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yes that does suck that a stock chevy can out perform a stock ford... gives my uncle more to exault chevy with
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NickFordMan
Modified Cleveland? I thought that Ford wasn't able to keep up enough production for the 351 Windsor, then started taking 400 blocks, and de-stroking them, then calling them the 400/351M. Maybe you could PM me and explain? Thanks.
I don't know about that. I just know I had (all cars) a 70 Ford with a 351 Windsor, as 72 With a 351 Cleveland and a 76 with a 351 Modified Cleveland. I think they started to put the 351 engines in the trucks in 77 to replace the 360.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Armorer, i dont know about that website, it lists my 87 460 as fuel injected.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Ford's gas engine were all fuel injected after '86 werent they? Man, is this ever a learning thread...lol.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:45 AM
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no, the 351 and 460 didnt get fuel injection until 88
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:47 AM
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Ahhhh....must have been the 302 that was '86.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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yea, the 300 might have been FI then also.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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Most likely....
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:48 AM
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EFI started on the 300 in 87 (when the body got updated). The 302's got it I believe in '86. Maybe 88 on 351 and 460.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Yea, 88 on the 351 and 460, because i hear of problems with the system on the 88 FI systems on the 351 and 460.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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I just sold a 96 with a 351. It was a great tow truck. I'd put it against a stock 350 chevy if you put a 3500 lb trailor behind them. I wish I'd kept my 96. It is a better truck than my 97 & lots easier to work on.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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a 76 with a 351 Modified Cleveland.
Nope. No such thing. A 351M is not the same thing as a Cleveland. A 351M is a 400 block with a shorter stroke crank in it, with taller pistons. Thus the M or modified designation.
 
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