F150 Starter problem
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Are there other relays in the starting system other than the solinoid ? ?
It seemed simple! I replaced the Starter, and the solinoid on the side wall of the engine compartment, cleaned all the connections and checked that the battery was fully charged. then tried it. It started right up the first time. Then I tried again and again and again, and only get the click click click sound that would normally lead you to belive the battery is low, (NOT SO).
If I put a meter on the starter side of the solinoid, I read nothing going through the unit.
About every 20-25 clicks it works, then click click click again. what am I missing ?
Paul
It seemed simple! I replaced the Starter, and the solinoid on the side wall of the engine compartment, cleaned all the connections and checked that the battery was fully charged. then tried it. It started right up the first time. Then I tried again and again and again, and only get the click click click sound that would normally lead you to belive the battery is low, (NOT SO).
If I put a meter on the starter side of the solinoid, I read nothing going through the unit.
About every 20-25 clicks it works, then click click click again. what am I missing ?
Paul
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Could possibly be the voltage regulator located below the solenoid, could still be a bad solenoid, could be a bad starter, and could be a bad battery. Pull the starter and have an auto parts store check to see if it engages. You might want them to check your battery also to make sure it has enough cranking capacity. Even though mine kicked the sprocket forward, it seemed to stick a little, replaced the starter and fixed the problem.
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My first move would be to try another sel. sw., if theres no power to the starter with the switch engaged. If a new switch does the same thing, (no power to the starter) Have the battery checked for cranking amps, they may say 12vdc but have no amps to turn the starter. also make double sure you have a good ground from the battery to the engine.
Good Luck,
Moe
Good Luck,
Moe
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These same symptoms are the reason I replaced the Starter with a new one and the solinoid as well.
The battery is new (3Months) and has been working well.The symtoms are the same when jump starting with cables to another know good battery. the Ground cable is new and goes directly to the both that mounts the starter to the bell housing.
Question: If you short across the terminals on the solinoid shouldn't that power the starter? I get nothing but sparks like it's a short to ground.
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>Ain't that the truth
>Moe
I have overlooked the simple things before, but this one has me really baffled. There was only one wire going to the "S" terminal and none to the "I". Can't go wrong there.
>Moe
I have overlooked the simple things before, but this one has me really baffled. There was only one wire going to the "S" terminal and none to the "I". Can't go wrong there.
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> These same symptoms
>are the reason I replaced the
>Starter with a new one and
>the solinoid as well. The battery
>is new (3Months) and has been
>working well.The symtoms are the same
>when jump starting with cables to
>another know good battery. the Ground
>cable is new and goes directly
>to the both that mounts the
>starter to the bell housing.
> Question: If you short across
>the terminals on the solinoid shouldn't
>that power the starter? I get
>nothing but sparks like it's a
>short to ground.
YES !!! Put 12vdc to the "s" terminal of your solenoid to see what happens. If it cranks, problem is in the switch. If not the switch can be eliminated as the problem. May be a bad starter sucking down your battery when power is put to it. A clicking solenoid usually means power to the solenoid is insufficient to hold the plunger down due to a low battery or a heavy drain on the system during an attempt to crank. Your fireworks show when directly circuiting around the solenoid suggests that your starter is at least suspect. May consider an amperage draw bench test. Good Luck and don't surrender to the commercial technocrats yet !!!
>are the reason I replaced the
>Starter with a new one and
>the solinoid as well. The battery
>is new (3Months) and has been
>working well.The symtoms are the same
>when jump starting with cables to
>another know good battery. the Ground
>cable is new and goes directly
>to the both that mounts the
>starter to the bell housing.
> Question: If you short across
>the terminals on the solinoid shouldn't
>that power the starter? I get
>nothing but sparks like it's a
>short to ground.
YES !!! Put 12vdc to the "s" terminal of your solenoid to see what happens. If it cranks, problem is in the switch. If not the switch can be eliminated as the problem. May be a bad starter sucking down your battery when power is put to it. A clicking solenoid usually means power to the solenoid is insufficient to hold the plunger down due to a low battery or a heavy drain on the system during an attempt to crank. Your fireworks show when directly circuiting around the solenoid suggests that your starter is at least suspect. May consider an amperage draw bench test. Good Luck and don't surrender to the commercial technocrats yet !!!
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. The new solinoid turned out to be bad, right out of the box. It was only a coincidence that the symptoms were the same for the failed starter, which was the start of all this(pardon the PUN).
Everything works great now.
Thanks
Paul
Everything works great now.
Thanks
Paul
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#1- "NEVER" assume new means good! #2- Same as #1!A simple test many may be interested in: turn the headlites on, if they are as brite as they should be &you still think the starter is bad, clean the cable ends(both ends-hot & grnd) & check tightness of the cable ends "especially" the grnd where it is terminated to the engine block. You may have a good battery that is only passing current to lesser load than the starter/solenoid, because of a poor connection.
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Let's not forget those wonderful Ford ignition switches.... They can lead you on a merry chase, from starters to batteries to cables to.....
well, don't forget the 'ol key switch. And they are easy to change out, too.
well, don't forget the 'ol key switch. And they are easy to change out, too.
