Brake dust!
Thanks for the help,
Matt
I put them on Sunday. I also put some on the rear, just because I could do that for 10 bucks (some guy on e-bay dumping a bunch of Expy leftovers. The fronts run about 40, with shipping.
I stopped having a bad brake dust problem when I got used to the truck, and started taking my foot off the gas a lot earlier. Truck freewheels like you kicked a clutch in.
Still, there was a little dust, especially after quick stops. I got tired of cleaning the wheels thus the Kleen-Wheels went on.
I did take them out for a serious run on Monday. Lots of hard stops, etc. No dust.
Some are concerned that they might make the rotor run hotter. Nope, they have small air vents, and are far enough away that it's might small point. Lots of air space when they are on.
Chris
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Thanks for the pic and info,
Matt
Thanks for the info guys,
Matt
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I have heard that the dust shields mentioned above cause overheating of the rotors, but I wouldn't know that for sure first hand.
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I have heard that the dust shields mentioned above cause overheating of the rotors, but I wouldn't know that for sure first hand.
After a week full of hard braking, I tried the 'white glove' inspection. OK, I really just used a Kleenex. No visible brake dust, looking at the wheel, but on the white Kleenex there was the faintest of black powder. This is after abusing the brakes.
Without the Kleen-Wheels abuse like this would have made the wheels look dirty from a distance. Now there is more regular dust (windy week) on the wheels than brake dust.
I'm gonna keep them on it.
Chris
BTW..dish detergent is excellent at removing brakes dust. Just don't forget to re-wax the wheels (if this is something you do) and let the rims cool down a lot before washing them. No need for caustic chemicals.
BTW..dish detergent is excellent at removing brakes dust. Just don't forget to re-wax the wheels (if this is something you do) and let the rims cool down a lot before washing them. No need for caustic chemicals.
Before all makers started selling us 'mag' wheels, we used to use round disk rims, and on things like motor homes and large trucks they still primarily use round wheels. Many cars used to have something call hubcaps, that also cover the entire metal center. No one ever had heating problems from putting on hub caps, or steel wheels. The idea that wheels cool better because they have large holes in them is mostly because people do not understand the laws of thermodynamics.
Find ANY evidence of any problem with heating, and please post the link.
Also, dish detergent, etc is far to harsh for treating tires. It removes tire dressing, wax from the rims, etc. That is why we use dish detergent as a wax remover when detailing cars.
Thank you
Chris
Now, as for the overheating. I said "urban" driving. and despite the prevalence of the internet, these conversations were with live people at various swap meets or shows i used to attend. Just because it's not on the internet doesn't mean it doesn't have some essence of truth. and it's not the large holes in the rims that allow cooling, it's more often the shape of the wheel that contributes to brake cooling, along with ducting or vents provided on the inside of the wheel well. As for hubcabs, I'm 35 years old, i know what they are. and who's to say they never contributed to brake problems? Only thing they were good for was hiding brake dust build up on steel wheels.
Moral of the story, don't rely on internet evidence to dispute something that is discussed among car enthusiasts. We all have our experiences and tips to share. I was not personally attacking the wheel guard thingies, just stating an opinion. Sorry if this sounded offensive, non was meant.
Tony P.
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Now for the required 'old guy to young guy' rant;
Listin Up, Sonny, (thumping my cane and leaning forward in the rocking chair) I were a gol-dang service writer for Ford about the time you were coming out of diapers.
Thumping floor again for emphasis;
I have spent 30 of the years in betwixt working in the auto mo bile industry, dag-nab-it. Sold enough autoparts to sink a battleship, by cracky.
Dun been a furrin car guy, with a dozen or so of them thar Limey cars, and dun been a quarter milin race car kinda guy with a couple six wins.
Mu partner did most uh the drivin stuff, I just wrenched, cuz he was a spry young cracker of 30.
Even pit crewed on weekends for a little time for a well known lady driver.
I usta be able to take down a 426 Hemi fer the tech inspection, quickern you kin spit.
And I'sa gotta tell ya, if'in you all can't a document it, it aint spit.
Leaning back in rocking chair, and glaring.
I really do have the mentioned experiance, plus a few years owning a computer building firm, after I got sick and tired of Federal/State idiocy in the automotive fields.
I have over four hundred shop books here in the room I am typing from, plus the latest Michells CD,s The Ford F-150 Cd, etc. etc. and frankly, I get better info from the forums than from most of the books...
Proof furnished on demand on my books, manuals, etc any time you would like. Hell, you can even come over and look things up if you want. Half my neighborhood does now...
Oh, and the best soap for removing wax is Dawn. Look it up. Never heard of anyone using dishwasher soap for anything but dishwashers...
Chris, the old coot.
I live on the outskirts of the LA basin. Heaviest, fastest city traffic in the world. I also live at in a very hot desert, at high altitude. We have the fastest, slowest hottest freeway driving in the world.
You may have heard of the LA freeways?
I drive there several times a week, and used to have to drive it every day. 80 to 0 to 80 to 0. Last time I went to the center of LA it was 95 degrees, and traffic was surging between 80 and about 5, for 50 of the 98 miles each way.
Brakes last about 1/2 normal life span here, and most drivers put between 15-30 k on their cars every year. My neigbor works in Torrence Thats 96 miles away. He commutes every day. Lots of people do here. That is urban driving.
Chris






