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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Questioning myself

I am looking at Steve's book and i am wonder on page 129 the third column in the grey box am i missing somthing? I am not umderstanding that very well.

If the motor is turned upside done when looking into it from the bottom of the rods the numbers 1 2 3 4 should be facing toward the outside of the block for the cylinders of 1 2 3 4 of the and the numbers 5 6 7 8 should be facing the outside of the block towards the cylinders 5 6 7 8.


I was just wondering if i have a ring upside down would i be able to tell. If so how?

I am worring myself over nothing i think but i just want to make sure that when i get this motor all back together and go to start it that it does not come apart.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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I think the key to the rod position is that the Oil spray hole from the rod sprays the opposite cylinder to the one it's connected to.

I don't understand your ring comment. There are tons of advice on ring installation. As long as you staggered them they are fine. I personally like to rotate them 180 out and have the gaps horizontal from each other at installation...that's how my dad taught me...there are many conflicting opinions on this but I've never had a problem.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FalconStng
I think the key to the rod position is that the Oil spray hole from the rod sprays the opposite cylinder to the one it's connected to.

I don't understand your ring comment. There are tons of advice on ring installation. As long as you staggered them they are fine. I personally like to rotate them 180 out and have the gaps horizontal from each other at installation...that's how my dad taught me...there are many conflicting opinions on this but I've never had a problem.
What i mean is what if i installed a compression ring upside down. how would i be able to tell other the pulling all of the pistons out to check them
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Pulling the pistons would be the only way I know of to check the rings for being installed upside down.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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I think that i installed them all right but i forgot to check b4 they went in


so i guess i will try to do that tonight
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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didn't your ring set come with instructions????? should tell you if the dot goes up, or inside bevel up etc etc
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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I think you might be over worrying. I know you asked in this forum about how to install the rings and then seemed like you knew. If I was you I'd continue with my assembly.

JMHO,

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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I think we have all second quessed ourselves at one time or another, I know I have, if unsure its easy to deal with it now then after your engine is installed
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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I think that i am going to slide them out just enuff for the re asure myself. I would rather be safe then sorry

alot of money to be sorry

i have worried myself sick over the what if question

what if it wont start
what if blows as soon as it starts
what if i forgot something

I dont haave very good luck and this is something that i want to be right and not all F up
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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if the rings are in wrong, it will start, probaly won't blow up, but may be a little low on compression...check them you'll sleep better
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Starting that engine for the first time will be stressful enough. You don't need that added stress. Always take your time and double check your checks and you'll have zero deficiencies. (a soldier buddy of mine used to say that, it works). Pull your pistons.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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I am going to pull them out tonite when i get off work.I know that i checked the last two and i tried to make sure that i put all of the rings on in the right direction to start with. but when i did a first check i found one was on backwards fixed that one and continued on my way. I would rather take extra time and check this vs having to redo everything that i have already done.


It has been about a week since i got all of the rings on the pistons and i seem to have worried that thought out of my mind if i checked them or not. So i will slide them out of the block tonight. I worry about everything that i do.

YES, I AM CRAZY!!!

while i have got them out i will check the snap rings that hold the pins. (reading another post and now i am thinking about that)
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Just for the record i did install everything correctly and i am good to go.

I was just worried about what if i missed something. I have a good amount of money in this thing and my wife would killl me if i blew it up in the first ten minutes... LOL


 
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Sounds like me after I get ready to put a pan on. "Hmmm, did I torque ALL the rods/caps?" Hmmm, better check AGAIN!!!! You constantly do this just because you don't want any problems later. Been there!

A few hours rechecking things now sure does save DAYS of taking it back out of truck/tearing down/switching-fixing a problem. Even the best mechanics sometimes go over something again to make sure things are right. Especially when there is a time lapse in the middle of it.
 
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