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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Its probably a special blend that they truck in for testing . It is probably a special formula used for testing only , more than likely not sold anywere at all

from what i know about the processes would not be hard to make a special batch of fuel to meet the specification needed , wouldnt be suprised if it wasnt blended to help them meet the emissions testing specs that they want to acheive .


And yes about the wheelies and drag racing ........ wouldnt even want to try that , too much boom potential behind me to even think about it


if i rember corectly i think cheveron has a research and training refinery in Ky.
so that could be why they truck it in from there
 

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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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I dont know if Chevron has a facility in KY but Valvoline,a part of Ashland,has a facility in Lexington KY.

On the news show,20/20 last night,they were talking about gasoline and using higher octane and name brands.

On the show,they said that very few cars need high octane,in fact,90% of the vehicles dont need it.

It is only needed in high RPM,high compression engines.

As far as the name brand,gas pretty much comes from the same place,the additives are about the only difference between them.

It even told about Arco? or Amaco? that was told by the government to stop claiming that there gas was cleaner than others because they didnt have scientific proof of such.


This is what is on the 20/20 web site:

The Price Is Premium, But 'Gas Is Gas'


When you head out on vacation this summer, you'll probably spend big bucks filling your car's gas tank, while griping about the price. But a lot of you who are complaining could be spending less for your gas.

You have a choice of gas at the pump. The price of 93 octane premium is more than regular 87 octane — about 20 cents more per gallon at many stations. Because premium costs more, a lot of people think it's better for their cars.

People told us premium gasoline gives them better gas mileage, more power and cleaner engines.

Regular gas, one woman told "20/20," "leaves a lot of gunk in your engine … That's what my daddy taught me."

But her daddy — and many of you who buy premium — are wasting your money.

NASCAR driver Joe Nemechek knows this. "Believe me, I've pumped gas in from about every gas station there's been in my personal cars. Whether it's around town or on vacation or wherever, you put the regular in there it keeps on running," he said. The NASCAR drivers, mechanics, and car makers will tell you that for 90 percent of the cars sold today, high octane is no better than regular gas. It won't give you better mileage, more power or a cleaner engine. NASCAR crew member Lisa Smokstad told us what every expert told us.

"It is a myth that cars run better on premium gas," she said.

Some cars do need higher octane — older cars that knock, and cars with high-compression, high-revving engines like Ferraris, Bentleys, Jaguars, Acuras, Mercedes and Corvettes.

But 90 percent of new cars don't need it — check your owner's manual.

The car manufacturers and every car expert we consulted told us that for most cars, high octane is a waste of money. Even the gas companies that sell the high-octane fuel — and make more money off of it — admit most people don't need it. But they don't go out of their way to tell you that.

Once you've figured out which octane to buy, does the brand matter? Are the well-known national brands better than the no-name brands, which are usually cheaper?

People we spoke to gave similar reasons for buying name-brand gasoline that they gave for buying high-octane gas. They believed the national brands were higher quality, and better for their cars.

But they may not know that all the gas, brand name and generic, comes from the same refineries. Brand names do use different additives, but it doesn't make them better for your car.

n 1996, the Federal Trade Commission forced Amoco, which denied any wrongdoing, to stop claiming in its ads that it was better than other brands without scientific evidence to back it up.

"It's a myth that brand-name gas is better than a no-name gas," said mechanic Dave Bowman, co-host of "Two Guys Garage" on cable TV's Speed channel.

"It doesn't make any difference whether you're buying a branded product or a no-name product," he said.

"The only difference is price."

The NASCAR drivers agree about that, too. "It's a myth, you don't need the high-octane gasoline, you don't need the, the name-brand stuff," said driver Jimmie Johnson.

Some of the fans have figured that out.

One man summed it up nicely for us. "The manufacturers and the gasoline dealers, they all want you to buy that expensive stuff. It all runs on the same stuff. Gas is gas."

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/st...=939056&page=2
 

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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Well in this case Chevron ships it's petrol for "The Big Three" to use in their emissions testing, from their Pascagoula Miss refinery, by barge, up the Miss & Ohio rivers to Louisvelle Ky, then by truck to Detroit.

They've been doing this since 1973!!!!

Does this suggest anything to you!!!!?????
 
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pawpaw
Well in this case Chevron ships it's petrol for "The Big Three" to use in their emissions testing, from their Pascagoula Miss refinery, by barge, up the Miss & Ohio rivers to Louisvelle Ky, then by truck to Detroit.

They've been doing this since 1973!!!!

Does this suggest anything to you!!!!?????
Yep thats it is a special blend of Gasoline made just for testing purposes .

I have seen stranger things done before lol
 
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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Boy wouldn't I like to have a tank or two of that, for my 4.0L!!!!! LOL
 
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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But then i dont know...... might give it the "squirts". LOL
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Amoco

If I remember Amoco is the cleanest fuel because it was the first fuel out. Every other maker after that had to add some kind of dye to tell who is who. I read that some where, I do not know remember where I read it. If you think about it, the price difference in 87-93 is usually $.20. With a complete fill-up that is only about $4.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Back in the 50's Amoco premium was unleaded & had no red dye in it. It was colorless so we called it "white gas" then.

Amaco then was the only one to market a no lead gasoline, but it was at a premium prce.

Lots of folks ran it, as it was thought to help make their exhaust systems last longer.

Of course by the time you needed a replacement, you had already paid out a fair portion of the cost, in the extra cost of the premium white gas. LOL

Their regular gas did have lead in it & was dyed red like everyone elses.

Interesting thing for you youngstes, In VA, in the 50's, by law, regular gas couldn't be less than 94 octane & premium not less than 99 octane.

Sunoco had the highest octane pump gas at, I believe 105 octane.

They also had a neat pump that would blend the gas so you could get any octane you neded between 94 & 105 & it automatacially adjusted the price. So you could pump just what you needed for your engine. Kinda neat I thought!!!!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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That is pretty cool. I use to live up north where Sunoco stations are and there was one store that had 97 octane. That was the only one I ever saw with 97. The other Sunocos had 94 octane. I just thought it was a misprint or some kind of yankee joke.....Just Kidding
 
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Anyone of you guys gotten over 200k on a veh and use a different brand at almost every fill up?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Yup, my 89' probe almost 220,000mi using 76,texaco,chevron.
And as far as i know its still going after my friend bought it for
his duaghter.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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I think it should be said that the "99 Octane" of years back was rated based on a different system and would be about 4 - 5 points lower on today's scale. Still very good. Sonoco "260" was over 100 octane, but I don't think it was ever as high as 105.

I do remember my new wife complaining when I spent 37.9/gal for it in my 1970 Firebird Ram Air 400!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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I've been using Marathon gasoline since they are close.
Has anyone heard anything good/bad about Marathon gasoline?
Do they have a decent additive package?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Marathon also is Speedway and SuperAmerica.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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I use speedways and haven't ever had a problem. I think there's a decent amount of weight in 1980f150's argument that the station matters more than the brand, because I've had more problems in that trend.

The thing that might be happening to a lot of us is that the more expensive companies tend to have better/newer/more maintaned underground storage tanks, and therefore give us less problems with water and other stuff in the gas. Since we buy locally, we don't know that the speedway in the next county has perfectly fine gas, just that the speedway here sucks. So we therefore think that all speedway's suck.
 
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