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Oil Change
OK. This may sound stupid but I need to know where the oil drain plug is at on a 2004 Expedition Eddie Bauer? I haven't looked and am going to start doing oil changes on our cars this Thur/Fri. Thanks
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and don't over tighten the plug and use the right oil in the expy 5w20 and a fl820s motorcraft filter. not a fram and use a 5w20 approved by ford with a good add pack .i would not use the valvoline as it is way overpriced and is bare bones minimum use motorcraft or pennzoil or if you can find it havoline 5w20
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Actually I'm using valvoline Durablend Synth blend. I don't use reg oil. And I have to use a Fram filter because walmart was all out of the motorcraft filter. I am using an upgraded Fram filter though. I think it's Tough Guard or something like that. Thanks
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is not ford approved
The Tough Guard is not a bad filter, it's just that there are better choices out there for the same amount of money or less. I used up 8 of them on 3 different engines and never experienced start-up noise or any other problems. The difference was that I got them for FREE, so it was an excellent deal. You're probably still under warranty, so you shouldn't have any problems changing it out after 3 - 4000 miles. The Motorcraft filter is a good deal for the money although compared to a Wix, Amsoil, M1, or Baldwin filter may seem kind of flimsy. Of course you'll pay a little more for those. I bought a lot of MC filters when Wally World was closing them out, so that's what I'm using.
Look around at other auto parts stores if you can, Motorcraft and Havoline in the 5W-20 flavor seem to be very strong performers as does the Mobil 5000 and 7500 lines. I'm surprised your Wally World didn't have the Mobil products.
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Why can't I find it on the Valvoline site???? I may be taking this oil back after all. What oils can I use or would you guys recommend??? Mobil 7500 ok??? I might just go full synthetic at this point. Any ideas on going full synthetic? Bad or good?
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Personally I prefer Mobil 1 5W-20. I've been using it for years with my current truck and the Ford I had previously. As far as filters I prefer to use Donaldson. Synthetic oils offer better startup and long-term protection in comparison to mineral oils, but they do cost more.
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i am tired of the myth that syntheic oils provide better wear numbers. the truth is they don't.they are only good for extended oci's and cold starts if you look at the uoa's the wear numbers are higher with syn.i every day use there is no benifit of synthetic it will just increase operating cost and won't help the engine live any longer.
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
i am tired of the myth that syntheic oils provide better wear numbers. the truth is they don't.they are only good for extended oci's and cold starts if you look at the uoa's the wear numbers are higher with syn.i every day use there is no benifit of synthetic it will just increase operating cost and won't help the engine live any longer.
Yes, but on the other hand, OCI offer added protection with synthetics. Plus, as you state, cold starts. Those two benefits alone, OCIs & cold start pumping (where the vast majority of engine wear occurs, wouldn't you agree?) justify the added cost of a quality synthetic, like Mobil 1, Red Line, or Royal Purple? We're talking a few dollars difference, per quart. Not rapping dinos (although I can't stand rap music
) as i use them in other applications. However, if I could have my engine oil at or near operating warm/hot temperatures ALL the time, and and all points inside the engine (not drained back into the oil pan, with an oil film protecting cold metal moving parts) then yes, I say use dino conventional oils only. However, I understand ford390 what you are saying with the wear #s, but the two factors you yourself stated for using a synthetic oil, is the two MAIN reasons to run it, especially, in a motor 5 years old or newer///... 
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they are only good for extended oci's and cold starts if you look at the uoa's the wear numbers are higher with syn
If you do some careful research, you can find a true syn that will provide lower than average wear nums over a longer period of time.
**RANT ON** And why do people always comment that syns aren't worth the money? Isn't it up to the individual to decide what they want to pay? Most comments go something like "don't waste your money-it's not worth it". Well...it's my money to waste, who are you to tell me how to spend my money, who do you think you are, my wife? **RANT OFF**
svtjackl - Any oil that meets the current Ford specs for your '04 EB will do just fine, dino, syn, or otherwise. I personally think that the best bang-for-the-buck right now are the Motorcraft and Mobil 5000/7500 products.
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Well there's always lots of controversy on Dino vs synthetic but what I need is a list of 5w-20 motor oils that meet or exceed the Ford criteria. Can anyone give me a list? I just went to Napa, Autozone and Checker Auto Parts and they only have Valv. Durablend in a 5w-20 Semi-Synth. Can't find ANYTHING else in 5W-20 that is semisynth. Would Mobil 1 in 5w-20 pass the Ford spec??? Of course it's $6.00 a qt which is a little much. Please help!!!